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In response to ""it's not going to change anyone's mind, so what's the point?" is defeatist though. " by Roger More

I totally get the point of the NYTimes story. It's a big deal that Trump didn't pay taxes and has this much debt.

Posted by Inigo (aka Inigo) Sep 29 '20, 06:27

But we all know it's not going to change minds. So, use it in debates if you have a zinger for it, but other than that, move on.

Add it to the many things he'll be charged for when he's voted out of office. I don't think saying what's the point of pushing this further is defeatist. I'm saying let's (as Democrats) band together and get people voting. Let's encourage each other even if we think the other person might be apathetic, defeatist or an impulsive name-caller.

This tax story isn't going to bring down Trump, but the fact that it will drive a wedge between democrats is silly, and all on people that write stories like this.

I'm sure there were plenty of stories that I thought were important that other people think we should move on from. That doesn't make them defeatist pieces of shit because they're saying "what's the point?".

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He (Scalzi) says there is an "element" that say "what's the point?" I don't think you are part of that, since you say "I totally get the point." - JaxSean, Anti-Pumpkin Sep 29, 06:43
It kind of does, in fact. If you think something is important but say "what's the point" that's definitionally defeatist. -- nm* - Reagen Sep 29, 06:30 7
- There’s different points. What’s the point in pursuing this, is different than what’s the point in this being known in the first place. - znufrii needs to cancel his gym membership Sep 29, 06:43 4
  - If you legitimately don't care about something, well, maybe we disagree on that. But if you say "it's important but why bother" - Reagen Sep 29, 06:49 3
    - Make the case to what degree? In my mind, the NYTimes story, coverage and current reaction is enough. The case has been made. -- (edited) - Inigo Sep 29, 07:01 2
      - I'm not suggesting it needs to be an all consuming focus. As I've said previously, if you pick a lane and say that's what you find important - Reagen Sep 29, 07:08
      - Agreed. We should be coming together, not driving wedges. -- nm - JaxSean, Anti-Pumpkin Sep 29, 07:04
- Alright, one last try. Good point, Marlowe. :) -- nm* - Inigo Sep 29, 06:32 1
  - Don't throw the towell like that! It sounds, err, defeatist! (NM) - Marlowe Sep 29, 06:45

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I totally get the point of the NYTimes story. It's a big deal that Trump didn't pay taxes and has this much debt.

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