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Regarding mail in ballots, I do see why it will undoubtedly confuse some people, resulting in votes getting tossed.

Posted by Volnelk Oct 7 '20, 07:47

It's not super super confusing, but at least in Ohio (and Pennsylvania too) you fill out your traditional ballot, put it in a privacy envelope, fill out the outside of it as well and then put that sealed envelope in another mail in envelope for transportation.

More than a couple people are going to put their ballot directly into the mail-in envelope and send it.

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Why not just make the outer envelope thicker? -- nm - Max Oct 7, 08:05 5
- It's not just privacy, it's also identification. - Ender Oct 7, 10:57
- California used to have that extra envelope. Too many people messed it up so they got rid of it. -- nm - jnine Oct 7, 08:38
- The point of having a separate envelope is to be able to separate the authentication of the ballot from the tabulation of the vote - znoooooooo!!! Oct 7, 08:21
- Well, we can't make it easy or anything, Max -- nm - GOP Oct 7, 08:20
- "These have two" -- nm - N Tufnel Oct 7, 08:17
Is the privacy envelope mandatory or optional? - aRCynic (and Old Lace) Oct 7, 08:01 7
- Mandatory now in PA, but iinm you are given the opportunity to cure any deficiency. - znoooooooo!!! Oct 7, 08:03 5
  - Also in PA you sign the mailing envelope, not the privacy envelope. -- (edited) - znoooooooo!!! Oct 7, 08:04 4
    - What they need to do is allow counties to begin counting mail-in ballots before Election Day, which would eliminate the need for a privacy envelope. - znoooooooo!!! Oct 7, 08:06 3
      - I think this is still one of the items that's in the courts. The Bucks Election official was on WHYY yesterday saying it would make a huge difference - decline Oct 7, 08:09 2
        
        Gotcha. -- nm - znoooooooo!!! Oct 7, 08:11
        
        but WHYY -- nm - ty97 Oct 7, 08:10
- Not optional. Votes returned directly in the mail-in envelope are not valid. - Volnelk Oct 7, 08:03
It's like Yzma scheming how to kill Kuzco. -- nm - Reagen Oct 7, 07:52
That is terrible design. Things shouldn't be made harder. -- nm - Candieman, Candieman, Candieman Oct 7, 07:51 4
- We're ensuring the integrity of the voting process. I promise for reals! -- nm - GOP Oct 7, 07:58
- Yep -- nm - ty97 Oct 7, 07:56 2
  - I guess the premise is that there is no identification on the outside of the mail-in envelope so it wouldn't be tampered with. - Volnelk Oct 7, 07:57 1
    - Which is complete B.S. -- nm - aRCynic (and Old Lace) Oct 7, 08:02
That's overly complex, imo. Ours (Maryland) is a ballot inside a mail-in envelope that you need to sign the outside. -- (edited) - Inigo Oct 7, 07:50

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Regarding mail in ballots, I do see why it will undoubtedly confuse some people, resulting in votes getting tossed.

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