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Project Lincoln has some thinking to do. -- nm

Posted by Roger More (aka RogerMore) Nov 4 '20, 06:59

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They do not. They used their videos to fundraise and now have a hefty war chest to spend on who they please, including Republican. - colin Nov 4, 07:16 2
- I think he means the individuals involved need to think about whether they still want to identify as Republicans. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 07:22 1
  - That too, but I was thinking about "how effective are they?" -- nm - Roger More Nov 4, 07:24
Why? What's the criticism? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 07:01 20
- Their party is gone from them and there’s no sign it’s coming back. -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 4, 07:06 11
  - Though the question is is there Trumpism without Trump? This hope the answer is no but I'm of course not so sure. -- nm - Reagen Nov 4, 07:16 8
    - I want to praise you on your first sentence. I'd started typing a long post that I eliminated which you summed up in one simple question. -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 07:21
    - The feeling was there before Trump - he just let all those people free to be terrible publically. Pre-Trump the rage was there, just hidden beneath - Andie Nov 4, 07:19
    - Without Trump, enthusiasm probably declines, but the bat shit crazy continues -- nm - TWuG Nov 4, 07:18 4
      - I think he's somewhat unique, but I think Don Jr. picks up where he left off. He's pretty much the same guy (only maybe even angrier). -- nm - pmb Nov 4, 07:20 3
        
        But he has none of the charisma. He comes across as an angry douche. -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 07:21 2
        
        The anger is what they care about. Though Trump's sense of humor does help. -- nm - pmb Nov 4, 07:25 1
        
        That's what I mean. Junior has none. -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 07:26
    - I despairingly (is that a word?) agree with you -- nm - prayformojo Nov 4, 07:18
  - Okay, that aspect I could see. Probably need another cycle or two with the increasing purple Texas & Georgia (no matter what happens) to scare 'em. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 07:09 1
    - Alternatively, given the rust belt has gone about 5% right of the polls, do they care about Georgia ? And Texas stayed red (not really close) - Will Hunting Nov 4, 07:12
- I haven't seen criticism, this is just my thought. But did their campaign have any actual impact on the outcome? -- nm - Roger More Nov 4, 07:05 7
  - I don't think there's anything conclusive on that which could be gleaned this morning. Who's to say the Trump strength wouldn't be more favourable? - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 07:07 6
    - 4M more voters found a reason to vote for Trump in 2020 than in 2016. It's a strong signal that people aren't changing their minds. -- nm - Roger More Nov 4, 07:23 5
      - "for Trump" or "anti-Democrat"? -- nm - oblique Nov 4, 07:26 1
        
        Either way. If voters voted "for Trump", it means that PL's campaign that "don't vote for Trump because Trump is awful" was not effective. - Roger More Nov 4, 07:32
      - Not necessarily true. That might be turnout. -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 07:24 2
        
        They didn’t vote in 2016. They saw something in the last 4 years that convinced them to come out and pull a lever. - Will Hunting Nov 4, 07:30
        
        And Project Lincoln's messaging didn't depress Trump's turnout, so... -- nm - Roger More Nov 4, 07:28
They did fine. Other parties have a lot more introspection ahead of them. -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 07:00

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