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In response to "This urban vs rural thing makes no sense to me. Votes should count the same no matter where people live. -- nm" by mara

US Elections are not directly made by people. States elect presidents. People decide how their state votes. -- nm*

Posted by oblique (aka kkuphal) Nov 4 '20, 08:10

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But it has given voters in some states inordinate power. At the senate level as well. These things were put in place to prevent a tyranny of the - pmb Nov 4, 08:15 1
- I don't disagree. I just also think that we probably need to tread lightly here as a country -- nm - oblique Nov 4, 08:17
I know how it works. I was addressing your "dramatically different" statement, as it seemed to imply the difference is undesirable. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 08:13 11
- The election would be dominated by some very large urban centers (LA, Chicago, NY) where large swaths of the US would essentially be ignored - oblique Nov 4, 08:16 10
  - CA was completely ignored this election and the last 3. No one campaigned here or bought ads.They only come here for our money in private fundraising - jnine Nov 4, 09:05
  - That may have been the case 100 years ago, but it just doesn't hold anymore. Every vote counts. And candidates can access all of them. There aren't - pmb Nov 4, 08:19
  - Nobody is being ignored if everybody's vote is treated exactly the same, the same way we elect governors. -- nm* - mara Nov 4, 08:16 7
    - It doesn't matter what the practicality is. If those urban centers are predominantly democratic, it will *feel* to the rest of the US that their - oblique Nov 4, 08:18 6
      - Well urban areas, with the majority of the population are being ignored now. I'm feeling pretty damn ignored in CA and I'm tired of it. Time for - jnine Nov 4, 09:07
      - Instead of right now how it *feels* like the urban vote is undervalued? (because it is) -- nm* - Andie Nov 4, 08:31 1
        
        Just ftr - Canada has some issues with this as well. -- nm - Andie Nov 4, 08:34
      - Nobody's saying it will fix the partisan nature of the US; we're saying we prefer every vote to count the same. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 08:22 2
        
        If it means we get a nationwide election system, I'm all for it - oblique Nov 4, 08:27 1
        
        Whether or not it causes Dems to lose is irrelevent to me, I just want every vote to count. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 08:29

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