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i'll also say that complaining that people who got tear gassed by police are saying police shouldn't have tear gas was bad for politics is missing the

Posted by colin 🤏 (aka colinski) Nov 20 '20, 08:58

issue completely. i'm going to support that message because it's not just an empty slogan, it's people that are being brutalized by police pleading and demanding that something be done.

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The majority of Americans, myself included, support police reform! - ty97 Nov 20, 08:59 17
- "police reform" is meaningless. it lets you say you're for it, but doesn't get specific in any way. - colin 🤏 Nov 20, 09:01 16
  - Whereas Defund the Police is specific and not what you really mean. It’s not Defund the Police* - Will Hunting Nov 20, 09:03 4
    - Back-up the police is the best I have came up with in conversation. -- nm - 🦃Spawn🦃 Nov 20, 09:04 3
      - that kind of requires you to come from a place of "cops are basically all good, but overworked" - colin 🤏 Nov 20, 09:09
      - "decrease the police" -- nm - Andie Nov 20, 09:06 1
        
        Still comes across (to some people) as making people less safe. -- nm - 🦃Spawn🦃 Nov 20, 09:10
  - "defund" costs us the majority in the Senate and a good part of the 73M votes Trump got. -- nm - 🦃Spawn🦃 Nov 20, 09:02 10
    - Whenever we say that, we should add that Biden got 79.7 million. - David Nov 20, 09:17 1
      - Yup. People keep talking like Biden was a disappointment. He jacked turnout to the best level in 100 years! -- (edited) - Reagen Nov 20, 09:20
    - i don't think a single democrat ran on "defund the police" as their slogan. are you suggesting dems should have silenced activists for the sake of - colin 🤏 Nov 20, 09:06 7
      - The GOP ran *against* defund. -- nm - 🦃Spawn🦃 Nov 20, 09:13
      - Because they realized it was terrible. They won 1 senate seat instead 3 or 4. Most races went GOP by 5-8% vs polling. - Will Hunting Nov 20, 09:11 4
        
        i think you just believe in a better US than i do. i think people watched police brutality and voted in favor of it. simple as that. - colin 🤏 Nov 20, 09:13 3
        
        Police brutality, when it's demonstrated to people, is one thing that gets near universal panning. But it doesn't get viewed in a vacuum. - Reagen Nov 20, 09:19
        
        I disagree with that. I think they voted against reduced policing. Again, the policy or improved training and supplemental staffing is popular. - pmb Nov 20, 09:17 1
        
        my concern is that instead of taking that message that is very new and continuing to work on it, they're going to fight it instead. yes, it could be - colin 🤏 Nov 20, 09:18
      - Hard to get anything done if you don’t win. -- nm - znufrii Nov 20, 09:08

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