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In response to "How Trump Hopes to Use Party Machinery to Retain Control of the G.O.P. " by crash davis

I give this article points because it contains the first Grover Cleveland reference I've seen in discussing potential future plans. -- nm

Posted by crash davis (aka crash davis) Nov 23 '20, 12:21

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he's been mentioned a couple times, on CNN I think. I don't remember who, but it was in this context .. probly Douglas Brinkley -- nm - mud Nov 23, 12:39
I'm amused if Trump is deluding himself into thinking people will like him more in three years. -- nm - David Nov 23, 12:23 11
- I thought he couldn't possibly be more popular this time than in 2016, but he got 11 million more votes in 2020. - 🦃 TWuG 🚀 Nov 23, 12:39 4
  - Your IM tells the story. He only got 10.7 million more while his opponent got 14 million more. So, he did significantly worse percentage wise. - David Nov 23, 12:43 3
    - His ability to get his base out is pretty remarkable. He also, gets his opposition out though. The opposition runs the risk of getting complacent. - pmb Nov 23, 14:06 2
      - A plausible scenario (but one that can't be counted on) - Reagen Nov 23, 14:19 1
        
        the bigger problem right now is the mid term backwash where the GOP could grip the senate and take back the house -- nm - ⌚👻🦃🏈 Nov 23, 14:33
- I think within 5 years a good portion of his base will have buyers remorse -- nm - eag Nov 23, 12:27 1
  - His base consists of people who hate the world and covet misery. The Sex Pistols dude is a perfect example. - David Nov 23, 12:30
- I don't think he understands majority rule to begin with -- nm - crash davis Nov 23, 12:25 3
  - I'm sure that his constant lawsuits in Michigan and Pennsylvania have endured him to the masses. -- nm - David Nov 23, 12:27 2
    - I'm wondering if that is a typo, or a really clever statement. -- nm - crash davis Nov 23, 12:31 1
      - A mistake but a sincerely worded one -- nm - David Nov 23, 12:39

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