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Trump just tweeted that he's pardoned Flynn -- nm

Posted by zork Nov 25 '20, 13:12

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Manafort next up. Then probably Assange. -- nm - Jovian Nov 25, 13:34 7
- Arrange has no loyalty to Trump and thus Trump has no loyalty to Assange. -- nm - Mop Nov 25, 13:42 3
  - He worked directly with Stone. Who worked directly with Assange. -- nm - Jovian Nov 25, 13:45 2
    - He was a patsy. -- nm - Mop Nov 25, 13:48 1
      - He really was pasty. -- nm - Qale Nov 25, 14:23
- Maybe Trump will insist on calling congress together mid January for a last SOTU where he'll give out pardons and medals to all the guests. -- nm - Max Nov 25, 13:35 2
  - Proud Boys founder will get a Medal of Freedom I bet -- nm - Remlik Nov 25, 13:42 1
    - "They're the...proudest boys you've ever met, really..." -- nm - Max Nov 25, 13:44
I heard that if pardoned, you can still be required to testify, no 5th amendment, can be charged with perjury if lying - zeitgeist Nov 25, 13:34
Lucky turkey! -- nm - Mop Nov 25, 13:28
Fun fact: Sydney Powell is his lawyer. -- nm - spamlet Nov 25, 13:27
Ghislaine likely next -- nm - budice Nov 25, 13:21 2
- would be fun to see the Qult try and square that circle. -- nm - Reagen Nov 25, 13:56 1
  - she's an innocent victim, forced to serve, why else would she -- nm - ⌚👻🦃🏈 Nov 25, 14:11
Don't worry. He'll commit more crimes soon! -- nm - David Nov 25, 13:18
Can you pardon someone who is still on trial? -- nm - Mop Nov 25, 13:18 19
- Yup. -- nm - ReluctantCornucopia Nov 25, 13:24
- The president’s powers of pardon are basically absolute. -- nm - spamlet Nov 25, 13:23 10
  - I mean, I don't think we actually know that. I don't think they've been challenged. I think it's always been unclear to what extent he can pardon - pmb Nov 25, 13:26 5
    - The last SCOTUS case I can think of was from the early 1970's. -- (edited) - ReluctantCornucopia Nov 25, 13:35 3
      - So could someone be videoed murdering someone, be on trial for it, and the president pardon them, and they get set free? - JaxSean Nov 25, 13:58 1
        
        from any federal prosecution, yes. -- nm - Reagen Nov 25, 13:59
      - I suspect that the court (if it's not in pure fealty to Trump and originalism) would consider whether that extends to granting the ability of a - pmb Nov 25, 13:45
    - The upshot is he can't pardon anyone outside of federal prosecution. -- nm - Mop Nov 25, 13:33
  - Don't worry, that'll never be abused, as long as you clone Washington. -- nm - The Founders Nov 25, 13:25 3
    - The theory is that the executive branch is responsible for carrying out the laws. And since the President is head of the executive branch.... -- nm - spamlet Nov 25, 13:28 2
      - If the word "faithfully" has no meaning, why do the other words? ("he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed") -- nm - mara Nov 25, 13:32 1
        
        It's more epic when Journey is involved. -- nm - Max Nov 25, 13:33
- Trump plans to pardon himself before it even starts - zork Nov 25, 13:19
- Yes, weirdly enough. -- nm - David Nov 25, 13:18 5
  - If the trial is underway and the pardon is given before a verdict is delivered, which takes precedence? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 25, 13:23 4
    - Pardon -- nm - spamlet Nov 25, 13:23 3
      - I believe I spoke clearly. Now answer the question. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 25, 13:28 2
        
        Prosecutors and defendants make last minute deals before verdicts often enough, I wouldn't say a pardon at that point is anything extraordinary. - Max Nov 25, 13:31 1
        
        "I am serious, and don't call me Shirley." (My reply to spam was intended as a joke) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 25, 13:38
Holiday news dump! -- nm - spamlet Nov 25, 13:17
Errol? -- nm - Peglegpete Nov 25, 13:14 1
- and I thought my reference was old -- nm - JD Nov 25, 13:15
All he did was try to get his games back so that kind of seems reasonable - JD Nov 25, 13:14

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