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In response to "Trump just tweeted that he's pardoned Flynn -- nm" by zork

Can you pardon someone who is still on trial? -- nm

Posted by Mop (aka rburriel) Nov 25 '20, 13:18

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Yup. -- nm - ReluctantCornucopia Nov 25, 13:24
The president’s powers of pardon are basically absolute. -- nm - spamlet Nov 25, 13:23 10
- I mean, I don't think we actually know that. I don't think they've been challenged. I think it's always been unclear to what extent he can pardon - pmb Nov 25, 13:26 5
  - The last SCOTUS case I can think of was from the early 1970's. -- (edited) - ReluctantCornucopia Nov 25, 13:35 3
    - So could someone be videoed murdering someone, be on trial for it, and the president pardon them, and they get set free? - JaxSean Nov 25, 13:58 1
      - from any federal prosecution, yes. -- nm - Reagen Nov 25, 13:59
    - I suspect that the court (if it's not in pure fealty to Trump and originalism) would consider whether that extends to granting the ability of a - pmb Nov 25, 13:45
  - The upshot is he can't pardon anyone outside of federal prosecution. -- nm - Mop Nov 25, 13:33
- Don't worry, that'll never be abused, as long as you clone Washington. -- nm - The Founders Nov 25, 13:25 3
  - The theory is that the executive branch is responsible for carrying out the laws. And since the President is head of the executive branch.... -- nm - spamlet Nov 25, 13:28 2
    - If the word "faithfully" has no meaning, why do the other words? ("he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed") -- nm - mara Nov 25, 13:32 1
      - It's more epic when Journey is involved. -- nm - Max Nov 25, 13:33
Trump plans to pardon himself before it even starts - zork Nov 25, 13:19
Yes, weirdly enough. -- nm - David Nov 25, 13:18 5
- If the trial is underway and the pardon is given before a verdict is delivered, which takes precedence? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 25, 13:23 4
  - Pardon -- nm - spamlet Nov 25, 13:23 3
    - I believe I spoke clearly. Now answer the question. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 25, 13:28 2
      - Prosecutors and defendants make last minute deals before verdicts often enough, I wouldn't say a pardon at that point is anything extraordinary. - Max Nov 25, 13:31 1
        
        "I am serious, and don't call me Shirley." (My reply to spam was intended as a joke) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 25, 13:38

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