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Interesting wrinkle that I'm sure has an answer: Pence invokes 25th, is "Acting President", does he have the pardon - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 7, 13:24 6
- If Pence is willing to invoke the 25th, I'd be amazed if he would be willing to pardon him. -- nm - Fuzzy Jan 7, 13:29
- If the 25th is successfully invoked, Trump could be convinced to resign, making Pence the actual POTUS and giving him all the powers. -- nm - mara Jan 7, 13:28
- He could administer acting pardons, which would be great for Sorbo, Woods, and Cameron. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 7, 13:27
- As acting president he would have all the powers and duties of the office, so I’d go with yes. -- nm - znufrii Jan 7, 13:26 1
  - That's my presumption, too, but it's a wrinkle which could be a loophole. Definitely could be a point of contention. -- nm - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 7, 13:28
- Heh, I wouldn't be so sure that there's a definitive answer. -- nm - mara Jan 7, 13:26
Sedition charges for Trump rioters are option, prosecutor says, as first federal cases filed -- (link) - budice Jan 7, 13:19 6
- Some will be able to plea down to trespassing if they weren't armed, didn't assault anyone, and just kind of walked around in the hallway. - Hibernating Baron Jan 7, 13:26 4
  - "All of my clients meet this criteria and because it was a public building this court ha no jurisdiction over them." -- nm - Alan Dershowitz next year Jan 7, 13:31
  - thankfully they loooove recording plus independent media has done a stellar job of documenting these events. -- nm - colin Jan 7, 13:27 2
    - The place must be armed to the teeth with CCTV too -- nm - ty97 Jan 7, 13:27 1
      - i'm not sure.... yes, probably? some places are not for security reasons. - colin Jan 7, 13:31
- Good. -- nm - znufrii Jan 7, 13:22
More movie talk: anyone else into researching old movies to watch? With streaming, it's cool when I find a bunch I already have access to. LYC inside -- (edited) - con_carne Jan 7, 13:14 9 1
- I object to those being classified as 'old' movies ;-) Regardless, definitely watch Shallow Grave - JD Jan 7, 13:28
- Shallow Grave is great paranoid filmmaking. Ewan and Boyle before Trainspotting. IMO, it's a better movie. -- nm - Inigo Jan 7, 13:27 1
  - Didn't realize MacGregor was in it, since this was a mention not a review. This is going to be a treat -- nm - con_carne Jan 7, 13:32
- With CRISPR and genetic stuff very much a real thing, Gattica will likely come across as 'cute.' -- nm - Qale Jan 7, 13:19
- philadelphia is a hard watch. a time capsule. I would recommend it. -- nm - amanda jeans Jan 7, 13:18
- The Arrival is better than it had any right to be. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 7, 13:17 3
  - I am honestly bewildered that it is from 1996. 24 years ago? REALLY?!? -- nm - JaxSean Jan 7, 13:27 2
    - ...and nevermind. I confused that with "Arrival" from 2016. -- nm - JaxSean Jan 7, 13:28
    - Sorry, heh. -- nm - con_carne Jan 7, 13:28
(fwiw): John Kelly says if he were still in the cabinet he would move to remove him from office. -- (link) - mud Jan 7, 13:14 1
- Too late. You had your chance dumbass. -- nm - pmb Jan 7, 13:17
Finally some good news: CDC says 21.4M vaccine doses now distributed, 5.9M administered -- (link) - decline Jan 7, 13:02 10
- so how many doses have been spoiled and are useless? that seems like worthwhile stat. -- nm - tRuMaN Jan 7, 13:15
- That needs to be ramped up considerably. We need to be at well over a million or two a day, every day. -- nm - Krusty - Diamond Dog Jan 7, 13:11 1
  - we're getting better. we were at 12% administered on 12/27 or 12/28 (I forget). the holidays screwed stuff up. we're getting on track now. -- nm - amanda jeans Jan 7, 13:15
- what's herd immunity? 240M? -- nm - colin Jan 7, 13:03 6
  - If you watched the Fauci talk this morning, you'd know! :P He said between 70 and 85%. Hard to give an exact number. - Hibernating Baron Jan 7, 13:15 5
    - I can't imagine keeping the work schedule he described. How he hides his weariness is beyond me. -- nm - prayformojo Jan 7, 13:22
    - i did.. not watch :( -- nm - colin Jan 7, 13:16 3
      - Then you didn't see the most important part, his comments on the DH. -- nm - Hibernating Baron Jan 7, 13:22 2
        
        He can't always be right -- nm - Krusty - Diamond Dog Jan 7, 13:28
        
        oh i got that part. that was real news. -- nm - colin Jan 7, 13:25
Trump looking to pardon himself and his kids. -- (link) - budice Jan 7, 13:00 16
- I mean... duh. -- nm* - Mop Jan 7, 13:12 1
  - right? this could be from march last year. -- nm - colin Jan 7, 13:14
- Remove his ass - right fucking now before any of that shit can even start to happen. Also - can you actually pardon someone - Johnny Lawrence Jan 7, 13:06 13
  - Actually General Flynn plead guilty and was trying to reverse his plea so he was never convicted and was technically pre-trial. - spamlet Jan 7, 13:17
  - That's what Ford did for Nixon. -- nm - Inigo Jan 7, 13:12
  - To your IM: Yes -- nm - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 7, 13:08 10
    - it's never been tested in court though, right? -- nm - colin Jan 7, 13:08 9
      - What would that entail, indicting somebody who'd received a nonspecific pardon? -- nm* - mara Jan 7, 13:09 8
        
        Pardons have to be for a period of time, so it would have to relate to something in that frame. -- nm - Reagen Jan 7, 13:13
        
        i believe so. that was the case with Nixon - he was never charged with anything, he got a blanket pardon for "whatever"... but they never charged him - colin Jan 7, 13:12 3
        
        I do think it's safe to say you can't pardon someone from future crimes. Future charges from past actions maybe, but not acts that have not occurred. -- nm - pmb Jan 7, 13:29
        
        Caspar Weinberger? (I'm not sure why the DOJ includes him in this category, actually.) - mara Jan 7, 13:23 1
        
        Caspar Weinberger seems like one that would have to admit guilt, but by doing so get the pardon and not have to be sentenced. - colin Jan 7, 13:30
        
        Ford pardoned Nixon. I don’t believe there were any charges pending yet. -- nm* - Mop Jan 7, 13:12 2
        
        I know, I was asking how exactly would it be tested in court. Are we talking a lawsuit, or charges filed, or something else? Several other examples: - mara Jan 7, 13:19 1
        
        I think it would be charges filed. Defense says "nope. Pardoned." Court decides if that's effective. -- nm - pmb Jan 7, 13:21
Son of a Brooklyn Supreme Court judge is an insurrectionist and invaded the Capitol yesterday. -- (link) - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 7, 12:46 2
- "Dressed in fur pelts and a bullet proof vest, Aaron Mostofsky joined an early wave of rioters who swarmed the halls of Congress" -- nm - decline Jan 7, 12:47 1
  - wearing a bullet proof vest to a violent event can bring some serious charges, IIRC. - colin Jan 7, 13:11
So when does Nigel Farage form the Trump Party? -- nm - LMS Jan 7, 12:46 1
- Can we Deport Trump beyond his wall? Stay tuned -- nm - budice Jan 7, 12:49
Hey so yesterday was a blur, and I've been trying to keep up with stuff, but why are people calling for Cruz to resign? -- (edited) - sycor Jan 7, 12:36 11
- It's the beard. -- nm - pmb Jan 7, 12:52 2
  - Nah. He was a useless sack of goo before he grew that. - Will Hunting Jan 7, 13:01
  - right? -- nm - prayformojo Jan 7, 12:57
- He was the first to object, and then the riots started, so, insurrection. Plus he's a waffling spineless dipshit. -- nm - JaxSean Jan 7, 12:38 2
  - I thought Hawley started it, but either way, yeah get rid of 'em both. -- nm - sycor Jan 7, 12:39 1
    - He (Hawley) hadn't yet, but did overnight -- nm* - JaxSean Jan 7, 12:40
- his very existence is an affront to humanity -- nm - decline Jan 7, 12:38
- He continues to give voice to the mob. Very daintily tiptoeing as best he can the line in his rhetoric so he can rake in their support in 2024. I called for him to resign too. -- (edited) - Qale Jan 7, 12:38
- He was one of the senators who supported the objections. -- nm - loosilu Jan 7, 12:37 2
  - Makes sense. I figured that's what it was but wasn't sure if he had said/ done something else. -- nm - sycor Jan 7, 12:38 1
    - He's the highest profile Senator of that little Treason caucus. -- nm - loosilu Jan 7, 12:59
2 things I just saw: 1) a person arrested near the Capitol yesterday had 11 molotov cocktails on them. 2) Because of a Trump EO these people are looking at a possible 10 years in prison -- nm* - decline Jan 7, 12:36 3
- I'd like more details on 2. Was it a BLM EO? -- nm - Beryllium Jan 7, 12:41 2
  - I think it's this one - zunkskunk+ Jan 7, 12:44
  - yep -- nm - ty97 Jan 7, 12:43
Pence planning to attend Biden inaugural, CNN has confirmed. -- nm - Remlik Jan 7, 12:36 7
- Great - glad he's taking care of the important shit first. I guess Mother hasn't given the ok for the 25th yet. -- nm - Johnny Lawrence Jan 7, 12:43 2
  - Perhaps he has but can't get the signatures? -- nm - ty97 Jan 7, 12:55 1
    - He’s fundamentally a coward. Someone else would have to bring him the signatures to do it. -- nm - spamlet Jan 7, 13:22
- Sure, hopefully, he'll be acting President Pence :) -- nm - oblique Jan 7, 12:40 2
  - I'm really curious what the history books will say about all of this in 5, 10, 20 years... -- nm - sycor Jan 7, 12:42 1
    - Depends what happens in the next 2 elections. -- nm - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 7, 12:47
- that's nice .. I guess -- nm - mud Jan 7, 12:38
Not sure I like the allusion, but crisconacht is being used to describe yesterday. -- (link) - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 7, 12:27 4
- I'm not sure I like it either, but it is clever -- nm - crash davis Jan 7, 12:29
- I like Coup Klux Klan to refer to the mob as well. -- nm - mara Jan 7, 12:28 2
  - Coup Clutz Clan is another variation -- nm - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 7, 12:33
  - Incelrection is the best so far, IMO. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 7, 12:31
Fmr Sen. Danforth "Supporting [Hawley] and trying so hard to get him elected to the Senate was the worst mistake I ever made in my life." -- (link) - Reagen Jan 7, 12:24
Gimenez and Rosario are gonna be stars but that’s such a good trade for the Mets. -- nm - Tim Jan 7, 12:24 2
- Rosario isn’t going to be a star. He’s 25 in year #5 and still can’t crack a 760 OPS. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 7, 12:29
- (and now they can tell Cano to pound sand.) -- nm - Tim Jan 7, 12:25
Not sure when it happened or if it has anything to do with yesterday’s events, but... - znufrii Jan 7, 12:19 8
- Replaced it with a Trump 2024 one instead? -- nm - LMS Jan 7, 12:38
- Maybe he was waiting for Congress to tally the EC votes. -- nm - mara Jan 7, 12:25 1
  - Could be that too. -- (edited) - znufrii Jan 7, 12:30
- whoa -- nm - mud Jan 7, 12:23
- It must. I guess that's what it took to feel the shame. -- nm - loosilu Jan 7, 12:22
- And I hope he feels very ashamed at ever having had it up in the first place -- nm - sycor Jan 7, 12:22 1
  - HA! - Cuzzin Todd Jan 7, 12:31
- Do you recognize him from any pictures from DC? - eag Jan 7, 12:21
sitwap: The Lawyer from Texas that instagram'd himself storming the castle has been fired (as of 1hr ago) -- (link) - JaxSean Jan 7, 12:17 8
- Have fun stormi....oh wait -- nm - spamlet Jan 7, 12:20
- Good hope all those seditionist loose there job -- nm - eag Jan 7, 12:19 2
  - The genius who wore his work ID lost his job. -- nm - loosilu Jan 7, 12:22 1
    - because of course. -- nm - mud Jan 7, 12:24
- 5 hours ago in fact -- (link) - ty97 Jan 7, 12:18 3
  - Actions have consequences -- nm - decline Jan 7, 12:20 1
    - Lalalalalalala -- nm - 45 Jan 7, 12:23
  - Yup true, saw that after I posted. -- nm - JaxSean Jan 7, 12:20
Zeit, paypal is fucking me good and I am mailing you a check. they are insisting on a cellphone number I don't have to access my account - Peglegpete Jan 7, 12:11 1
- please cancel the request -- nm - Peglegpete Jan 7, 12:12
That Tuberville quote isn’t real. See the thread below it. -- nm* - spamlet Jan 7, 12:10 7
- I think I should 3D print you an abacus. You know why -- nm - crash davis Jan 7, 12:17 1
  - I do need a new set of bagpipes since some killjoys made me leave them.... -- nm - spamlet Jan 7, 12:21
- Of course he knows how to count to 25. He usually was trailing Saban by that many in the 3rd quarter. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 7, 12:16
- spoilsport -- nm - decline Jan 7, 12:14
- Though I saw this yesterday and laughed even though it was inappropriate at the time. -- (link) - spamlet Jan 7, 12:12 1
  - Heh, same. -- nm - Tim Jan 7, 12:20
- Thank goodness -- nm - ty97 Jan 7, 12:11
Donald Trump has banned Mike Pence from the White House -- nm - budice Jan 7, 12:10 16
- "He can't remove me if he can't see me!" -- nm - Mop Jan 7, 12:28
- "Pence’s chief of staff says Trump has banned him from West Wing." "Him" here refers to his CoS. -- nm - mara Jan 7, 12:16 6
  - OK, that I believe. Still petulant and moronic, but credible. -- nm - Hibernating Baron Jan 7, 12:20 4
    - That sounds more like it -- nm - Johnny Lawrence Jan 7, 12:21 3
      - I would be 0% surprised if he bans Pence too -- nm - ty97 Jan 7, 12:22 2
        
        Shadow ban. Nothing explicit, just never available when he calls or comes by. -- nm - mara Jan 7, 12:27
        
        I keeping telling him he can't come in but he won't listen to MEEEEEEEEE -- nm - 45 Jan 7, 12:24
  - yeah, let's not get ahead of ourselves. -- nm - Reagen Jan 7, 12:19
- Making it easier for Pence to invoke the 25th -- nm - eag Jan 7, 12:16 1
  - Yep - let's do this shit. I want to see that fucker dragged out before the weekend. -- nm - Johnny Lawrence Jan 7, 12:18
- I sincerely hope we make it through the next 13 days -- nm - decline Jan 7, 12:13 1
  - If we only make it through 3.98 years, I will be pissed. -- nm - Spawn Jan 7, 15:12
- *blink* huh. -- nm - JaxSean Jan 7, 12:12 1
  - The VP is the one person the President can't fire -- nm - ty97 Jan 7, 12:13
- Wait, what? -- nm - Johnny Lawrence Jan 7, 12:11 1
  - This seemed obvious. Marc Short, the VP's Chief of Staff, was banned last night. - ty97 Jan 7, 12:12
From B2, yes, that Steps! This is wonderful, terrible, amazing all at the same time. -- nm - MDH Jan 7, 12:03 2
- That's a good description. I'm working my way through the songs listed on their Spotify page under Popular - JD Jan 7, 12:07 1
  - Right? I'm actually really feeling their new singles and Tragedy. -- nm - MDH Jan 7, 12:23
Apparently someone at my wife's company stormed the capitol yesterday. She's been fired. -- nm - pmb Jan 7, 12:02 7
- Undercover ANTIFA? -- nm - Spawn Jan 7, 15:04
- That's a shame. There are good people on both sides. - 45 Jan 7, 12:25
- Good -- nm - Pippy Jan 7, 12:14
- The greatest irony of the Section 230 stuff is Parler would already be shut down over the criminality they’re releasing. -- nm* - Will Hunting Jan 7, 12:07
- ! -- nm - budice Jan 7, 12:07
- nice -- nm - mud Jan 7, 12:04
- It seems a bit missing the mark to fire your wife! -- nm - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 7, 12:02
Now playing: The 2020 Koshien Bowl -- nm - David Jan 7, 12:01
The Darwin Awards this year are going to have a hard time finding anything better than "tased self to death". -- nm - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 7, 12:01 4
- Hold my beer -- nm - 2021 Jan 7, 12:41
- I have an analogy! - Mop Jan 7, 12:32
- I'm still curious how you tase yourself to death? Heart attack? -- nm - sycor Jan 7, 12:28
- indeed. -- nm - mud Jan 7, 12:04
The acting Dept. of Transportation Secretary is now the General Counsel for the department since Trump doesn’t have a Deputy. - Will Hunting Jan 7, 11:57 2
- There's a movie in this where the guy running the mail room finds himself the new Sec. -- nm - Alan Dershowitz next year Jan 7, 13:39
- He seriously does not give a hoot. That's part of the damage Trump is doing by sticking around. -- nm - budice Jan 7, 12:00

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