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Yup. Got spare doses that'll go to waste and no one left "on the list"? Jab into the next willing person. -- (link)

Posted by Reagen Jan 11 '21, 09:42

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https://mobile.twitter.com/zeynep/status/1348627964578168832 (mobile.twitter.com)

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Hit that quota! -- nm - Spawn Jan 11, 10:15
I saw a thread about a guy who was at a CVS getting something random (hotpockets I think?) and they had extra doses and where just giving them out - decline Jan 11, 09:52 4
- So you're saying I need to hang out at CVS more and eat hot pockets to get vaccinated? -- nm - oblique Jan 11, 10:22 2
  - You might find some chocolate hearts at the CVS. - Qale Jan 11, 11:08
  - exactly -- nm - decline Jan 11, 10:26
- Yes. -- nm - David Jan 11, 10:05
"Their shift was over and per protocol, they had discarded the doses." What kind of protocol is that? -- nm - JaxSean Jan 11, 09:51 6
- It's protocol to make sure expired doses aren't given out. But they need to figure out how to make sure they give out what's not expired. -- nm - pmb Jan 11, 09:56 5
  - I get tossing expired doses. That just sounds like "welp, it's 5pm, clock out and toss anything extra we have." -- nm - JaxSean Jan 11, 10:01 4
    - "it's 5pm, we need to toss everything that hasn't been at -80 C all day." it spoils if it's out too long. -- nm - amanda jeans Jan 11, 10:13 3
      - I get what pmb is saying below, it's a learning curve, but the wording just seems like willful ignorance. - JaxSean Jan 11, 10:23 2
        
        Willful ignorance on Twitter? -- nm - con_carne Jan 11, 10:33 1
        
        more willful ignorance on behalf of the vaccine administrators. -- nm - JaxSean Jan 11, 11:08
The Russians are pros at jabbing people with syringes without them noticing. Get them on the case! -- nm - Mop Jan 11, 09:49 1
- Dark, but fair. -- nm - Qale Jan 11, 10:00
dammit, that's a frustrating thread -- nm - prayformojo Jan 11, 09:48
They really should be pushing the Moderna vax (which doesn't have such special handling issues) to doctors (or some portion of it). My dad is 95, but - pmb Jan 11, 09:48
Yup. This needs to be done better and there needs to be a way to get the expiring vaccine to anyone that wants it. -- nm - Krusty - Diamond Dog Jan 11, 09:48
I wonder if they’re in NY which has a $10k fine for vaccinating someone not on the list. - spamlet Jan 11, 09:46
it is driving me CRAZY. -- nm - Andie Jan 11, 09:46
Bureaucracy will be civilization's undoing. -- nm - David Jan 11, 09:45 12
- “The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.” -- nm - znufrii Jan 11, 10:22
- It's more like beer - the cause of, and the solution to all of life's problems. -- nm - Roger More Jan 11, 10:09
- I think putting this on bureaucracy is only partially right. This is actually complicated and it's not as easy to implement flexible rules and meet - pmb Jan 11, 09:55 7
  - I think you're absolving people of making common sense-based mistakes. -- nm - David Jan 11, 10:05 2
    - I'm not. I'm suggesting that patience is needed and that balancing what seems like common sense with trying to achieve certain policy goals is not - pmb Jan 11, 10:08 1
      - "Don't throw away vaccine doses" is something even a child should understand. This was an unforgivable mistake. -- nm - David Jan 11, 10:18
  - The consequences of someone getting their dose "out of order" are linear. The consequences of wasted doses are exponential. -- nm - Reagen Jan 11, 09:59 2
    - Understood. But the consequences of first come first served to achieve that are likely to overwhelm both the system and the reasonably preferred - pmb Jan 11, 10:06 1
      - i don't know why they don't have an email or text list available for small local organizations and they just pick one and send an email "the first 50 - Andie Jan 11, 10:31
  - I think we also still need to leave some room for ‘messing it up on purpose’ as well. -- nm - Qale Jan 11, 09:57
- one of us - one of us -- nm - Strongbad Jan 11, 09:50
- *a million people show up at the ER* I hear you might have some extra doses? -- nm - Mop Jan 11, 09:50

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