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So when Trump pardons himself, I assume the legality of it is moot until if/when he's charged with a Federal crime and then the Supreme Court rules? -- nm

Posted by Dano (aka dano) Jan 18 '21, 13:10

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It would be great if he signed one for himself but forgot to keep a copy, and the original just disappeared. - Max Jan 18, 14:15 3
- If he does he's gonna carry it around in his jacket like it's his freedom papers. -- nm - Reagen Jan 18, 14:17 2
  - "Sir, you can't park here." "Pardon." "I said, Sir, you can't park here." -- nm - Max Jan 18, 14:19 1
    - Ah yes, the Presidential Pardon, 2021's answer to the Royal "We". -- nm - Beryllium Jan 18, 14:22
A competent SCOTUS with a firm understanding and grasp of what the founders intended would deny him - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 18, 13:22
I'm not sure what you mean by the "legality of it is moot". We likely wouldn't know if it was effective until a charge was brought and it worked its - pmb Jan 18, 13:13 2
- in the classical definition of "up for debate". -- nm - Reagen Jan 18, 13:31 1
  - Let's just agree to disagree on this one. -- nm - Joey Tribbiani Jan 18, 13:39
ST subpoll: A) Does he pardon himself? B) His kids? C) Capitol rioters? D)Snowden E)Assange? -- nm - Bark Multiverse Jan 18, 13:13 19
- I could see him pardoning Ivanka and Jared (in part because they could testify against him) but not the boys, because he's a dick to them. -- nm - Max Jan 18, 14:10
- Yes, Yes, No, Yes, Yes - Will Hunting Jan 18, 13:37
- yes and he tries to secretly pardon himself for all past crimes and infractions as well - tRuMaN Jan 18, 13:37
- Yes across the board. The Trumpers who are hard core will rejoice since Trump got one last good lick in on the Libs -- nm - Pippy Jan 18, 13:34 1
  - he is mad at the insurrectionists, they FAILED, they are losers, hell they even dressed like street trashed, they deserve 10 years in fed prison -- nm - zeitgeist Jan 18, 13:38
- only Assange can *afford* to buy one from him. -- nm - zeitgeist Jan 18, 13:18 2
  - Oh, there will be some "own the libs" pardons that he does for free. -- nm - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 18, 13:23 1
    - *fingers crossed for Joe Exotic* -- nm - crash davis Jan 18, 13:24
- I think: definitely yes to A + B; yes to some of C (the ones who will help his next political campaign, whatever that may be); no to Snowden; and ... - ReluctantCynic Jan 18, 13:15
- I honestly think 0/5. -- nm - Reagen Jan 18, 13:14 9
  - I'm 50/50 on the first 2. I think he explains it away as he has to protect himself from the democrats that will come after him for political purposes - pmb Jan 18, 13:26 8
    - I think the implied guilt of a pardon (in his mind) doesn't let him admit he did anything wrong. -- nm - Reagen Jan 18, 13:30 7
      - I think he wouldn't be bothered by that (he wants to win in courts at all costs) but he wants to receive the pardon as a gift, not self-granted. - Max Jan 18, 14:08
      - I think he ignores that. He has to do it to protect his family from the crazy left. He has no problem lying about anything. I don't see why this - pmb Jan 18, 13:50
      - I'm just glad he can't pardon state crimes. He'll spend the rest of his life in litigation - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 18, 13:36 3
        
        I think he likes it, though prefers to be the one screwing over smaller underfunded investors/workers, his problem is finding lawyers to work for him -- nm - zeitgeist Jan 18, 13:42 2
        
        He likes it when his wealth lets him crush weaker opponents. Against New York? Against the Feds? He'll be the one squished. -- nm - ❄TWuG 🚀 Jan 18, 13:44 1
        
        "Hello, I'm your court-appointed defense attorney. I'm a little nervous since this is my first big case, but I think we can actually win this." -- nm - Max Jan 18, 14:18
      - A con man has to stick with the con no matter how exposed it is...but I'm sure he has some self preservision reflexes -- nm - zeitgeist Jan 18, 13:35
challenges will likely fly as soon as a senate committee asks him to sit down and answer some questions -- nm - zeitgeist Jan 18, 13:12
Meanwhile guilty of Tax Evasion in State Court. His Tax Returns released. -- nm - budice Jan 18, 13:11 1
- Ican't believe his taxes are still kept away from house and state DAs -- nm - zeitgeist Jan 18, 13:13
(I don't think he does but...) yes, you can't just call bullshit on it without a case to try. -- nm - Reagen Jan 18, 13:11

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