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In response to "CDC Update: Fully vaccinated Americans no longer need to wear masks or maintain social distance indoors or outdoors with some exceptions -- nm" by MDH

I think this is a bad call. I'm sure it's medically sound, but in terms of safety communication I don't think it's a good thing. -- nm

Posted by Beryllium (aka grayman) May 13 '21, 11:22

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Would you mind elaborating on why, I'm curious? -- nm - MDH May 13, 11:22 33
- Okay ... - Beryllium May 13, 11:30 19
  - But, we also risk convincing people that there's no point to vaccination if none of the restrictions lift. "Vaccinated people don't have to wear masks - Reagen May 13, 12:25
  - I agree with this. Bad move because people are liers -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) May 13, 11:48
  - no passport, though hospitals/government could look up your medical records as the shot givers usually ask for your insurance number -- nm - zeitgeist May 13, 11:46
  - I see what you mean but the chances of the anti-vaxxers ever following the advice of the CDC is close to zero. - Inigo May 13, 11:38
  - The latest on "vaccine passports" -- (link) - mara May 13, 11:36
  - Yes, I agree. "this loophole for selfish assholes carries a real risk." -- nm - JaxSean May 13, 11:35 12
    - They were most likely already walking around outside without a mask. -- nm - Inigo May 13, 11:39
    - To the selfish assholes. -- nm - Cuzzin Todd May 13, 11:38 10
      - No, to those that the selfish assholes come in contact with that can't be vaccinated. Children and other countries that aren't as fortunate. -- nm - JaxSean May 13, 11:42 6
        
        So let's bring this back to the original point - how does continuing to recommend vaxxed people still wear masks address any of that that? - Cuzzin Todd May 13, 11:47 5
        
        Maintains social pressure for those that aren’t vaxxed to wear their goddamned masks. -- nm - znufrii May 13, 11:53 4
        
        If people who are vaccinated are now at a negligible risk to get it or spread it "peer pressure" isn't reason enough to continue the recommendation. -- (edited) - Cuzzin Todd May 13, 11:58 3
        
        Leading by example is what they should be doing, and because of perception. - JaxSean May 13, 12:15 1
        
        I don't disagree with the sentiment, but again the CDC recommendations should be what is actually necessary to stop the spread. - Cuzzin Todd May 13, 12:28
        
        It’s about community risk, not personal risk. With the recent trend of vaccination rates decreasing making herd immunity more remote, this comes across as premature. -- nm* - znufrii May 13, 12:03
      - No. -- nm - Beryllium May 13, 11:41 2
        
        They're no risk to me or to others that have done the right thing and gotten vaccinated. - Cuzzin Todd May 13, 11:44 1
        
        But kids under 12 can't, and people from other countries can't. -- nm - JaxSean May 13, 12:16
  - Thanks, I appreciate you walking me through! -- nm - MDH May 13, 11:32
- So, now we trust people when they say they are vaccinated? -- nm - Spawn May 13, 11:25 12
  - plus vaccinated does not equal immune. they can still carry and spread the virus -- nm - Beaker May 13, 11:27 8
    - all of the below, plus: do you want to wear masks forever because my boss thinks vaccines have microchips? - amanda jeans May 13, 11:48
    - I believe some research has indicated that retransmission is very low with some of the vaccines. -- nm - Beryllium May 13, 11:31
    - Yes, but the danger of that spread is to the nonvaccinated, who should still wear masks. -- nm - mara May 13, 11:30 4
      - If people have the ability to get vaxxed, and have chosen not to, at this point, eff them. - JaxSean May 13, 11:35
      - local nursing home outbreak, 19 test pos, six were fully vaxxed, ONE DIED...well he was 80, I haven't heard of a follow up from autopsy -- nm - zeitgeist May 13, 11:31 2
        
        I am not going to mask forever because of breakthrough cases. I can't do it. at some point I want my life back. - amanda jeans May 13, 12:03
        
        yeah I think a couple of older people in homes here who were vaccinated got it as well but they haven't released that info yet iirc -- nm - Beaker May 13, 11:51
    - CDC just told me I am good! -- nm - Trumpers May 13, 11:28
  - I think they're saying that the risk is only to themselves. -- nm - mara May 13, 11:26 2
    - Unflatten the curve! -- nm - IAmQale May 13, 11:28
    - As I said all along, you wear your mask for you, I don't wear my mask for me. -- nm - Trumpers May 13, 11:27

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