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In response to "Would you mind elaborating on why, I'm curious? -- nm" by MDH

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Posted by Beryllium (aka grayman) May 13 '21, 11:30

... the pandemic isn't over. Herd immunity hasn't been hit.

People who are fully vaccinated are much less likely to contract and retransmit the virus.

So it's medically sound for them not to be wearing masks.

The issue is, not everyone is rushing out to get vaccinated. There is a large percentage of Americans who won't. This percentage also overlaps with being the kind of selfish asshole who would say "It's OK, I was vaccinated" when they weren't.

Kids under 12 can't get vaccinated yet. Teens haven't been fully vaccinated yet. Immunocompromised and allergic people sometimes can't get vaccinated.

So creating this loophole for selfish assholes carries a real risk. If they happen to be infected, allowing them not to wear masks will run the risk of polluting indoor spaces with lingering infectious aerosols.

(Is there a vaccine passport for proving vaccination status? Or is it just relying on individual responsible behaviour?)

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But, we also risk convincing people that there's no point to vaccination if none of the restrictions lift. "Vaccinated people don't have to wear masks - Reagen May 13, 12:25
I agree with this. Bad move because people are liers -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) May 13, 11:48
no passport, though hospitals/government could look up your medical records as the shot givers usually ask for your insurance number -- nm - zeitgeist May 13, 11:46
I see what you mean but the chances of the anti-vaxxers ever following the advice of the CDC is close to zero. - Inigo May 13, 11:38
The latest on "vaccine passports" -- (link) - mara May 13, 11:36
Yes, I agree. "this loophole for selfish assholes carries a real risk." -- nm - JaxSean May 13, 11:35 12
- They were most likely already walking around outside without a mask. -- nm - Inigo May 13, 11:39
- To the selfish assholes. -- nm - Cuzzin Todd May 13, 11:38 10
  - No, to those that the selfish assholes come in contact with that can't be vaccinated. Children and other countries that aren't as fortunate. -- nm - JaxSean May 13, 11:42 6
    - So let's bring this back to the original point - how does continuing to recommend vaxxed people still wear masks address any of that that? - Cuzzin Todd May 13, 11:47 5
      - Maintains social pressure for those that aren’t vaxxed to wear their goddamned masks. -- nm - znufrii May 13, 11:53 4
        
        If people who are vaccinated are now at a negligible risk to get it or spread it "peer pressure" isn't reason enough to continue the recommendation. -- (edited) - Cuzzin Todd May 13, 11:58 3
        
        Leading by example is what they should be doing, and because of perception. - JaxSean May 13, 12:15 1
        
        I don't disagree with the sentiment, but again the CDC recommendations should be what is actually necessary to stop the spread. - Cuzzin Todd May 13, 12:28
        
        It’s about community risk, not personal risk. With the recent trend of vaccination rates decreasing making herd immunity more remote, this comes across as premature. -- nm* - znufrii May 13, 12:03
  - No. -- nm - Beryllium May 13, 11:41 2
    - They're no risk to me or to others that have done the right thing and gotten vaccinated. - Cuzzin Todd May 13, 11:44 1
      - But kids under 12 can't, and people from other countries can't. -- nm - JaxSean May 13, 12:16
Thanks, I appreciate you walking me through! -- nm - MDH May 13, 11:32

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