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I too would like to see Will answer Jim's question -- (link)

Posted by Mr. Havens (aka EdwardHavens) Nov 4 '08, 10:33

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It's an honest question (www.slackertalk.com)

Just curious...then why have you been so involved in all the political discussions around here when you had no plans to even vote?

Jim (aka Jim) Nov 4 '08, 10:29

you've been as vocal as anyone for weeks on this topic and then on the day, you don't even go out to vote? I don't get it.

In response to JoeMetz: "*shrug* I'll take my chances no vote will be 1 shy."

Responses:

Wow. Looks like I missed a lot. -- nm - Spawn Nov 4, 11:34
*curses Havens* - JaxSean - I Voted, dammit Nov 4, 10:39
I'll say this much: I'm pissed I ever argued with someone who has abrogated their right to have an opinion on presidential politics. - TWuG Nov 4, 10:37 24
- this is my thought, too. anytime he ever complains about politics again, I'm calling bullshit. - all the candidates loves mandy lane Nov 4, 10:46 3
  - I'm disappointed that this means Brewster's Millions was a sham -- nm - oblique - I voted! Nov 4, 10:47 2
    - I don't understand this reference. are you being mean to me? -- nm - all the candidates loves mandy lane Nov 4, 10:51 1
      - None of the Above! - oblique - I voted! Nov 4, 10:52
- Heh. - kelly Nov 4, 10:39
- It's his choice not to vote, and his one vote really doesn't change anything. -- nm - JaxSean Nov 4, 10:38 18
  - 537 - Mr. Havens Nov 4, 10:42 1
    - see below. -- nm - JaxSean - I Voted, dammit Nov 4, 10:43
  - Voting is never about *one* vote. But every one vote adds to the whole that makes a difference. My contribution to kelly's fundraising didn't make a - oblique - I voted! Nov 4, 10:39 9
    - But this discussion is about *his* one vote. It's not going to make a difference. - JaxSean - I Voted, dammit Nov 4, 10:47 7
      - But he loses the right to complain about how elections are run or turn out or anything about politicians - Mr. Havens Nov 4, 10:49 6
        
        I missed the first amendment where that clause is in it. You'll need to point it out to me. - Will Hunting Nov 4, 10:54 1
        
        It's not a law. It's common sense. You refuse to participate in elections, you are saying your voice does not matter - Mr. Havens Nov 4, 10:57
        
        Yes he does. But that doesn't mean we can't still give him shit for bitching. -- nm - JaxSean - I Voted, dammit Nov 4, 10:52
        
        I don't necessarily agree on this point. I shouldn't have to move to Alaska and vote every time in order to bitch about people like Ted Stevens. -- nm - Max Nov 4, 10:51 2
        
        it's not the same, because you have the opportunity to vote for Prez everywhere. -- nm - loosilu - I voted! Nov 4, 10:54
        
        if i could find a way to vote in this US election, I would. but i can't. so i have no problem speaking my mind about it. - Andie Nov 4, 10:53
    - :) - kelly Nov 4, 10:40
  - Well thak the ever loving Maker that not everyone feels that way. Every vote matters. Every voice matters. Your vote *is* your voice. -- nm - TWuG Nov 4, 10:39 5
    - My voice is my voice. My vote is my word of support. I don't support any one running. - Will Hunting Nov 4, 10:49 4
      - None of your local representatives? That's on crack. -- nm - Amy--I tried 3 times! Nov 4, 10:54 1
        
        Maybe what Will needs to do is run for office. Become part of the solution -- nm - Mr. Havens Nov 4, 10:58
      - not one person, in any of the races for anything? did you actually read every person's platform on every issue? -- nm - Andie Nov 4, 10:50 1
        
        I doubt it. That would crimp his apathy -- nm - Mr. Havens Nov 4, 10:51
In all honestly, I still feel as though "my vote doesn't count." - JaxSean Nov 4, 10:37 20
- I feel that way too, but I decided I wanted the numbers for the state to include my opinion anyway. Just to make the number more accurate. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 10:42 6
  - Oh, I'm with you. I just empathize with Will. -- nm - JaxSean - I Voted, dammit Nov 4, 10:50 1
    - I don't. He's posted for months about the candidates. That's like me posting about sports! -- nm - Amy--I tried 3 times! Nov 4, 10:57
  - agreed. - Mel Profit - Votetastic! Nov 4, 10:46
  - That's why I wrote in for 2004. But then I couldn't find the write in results anywhere. @#!! -- nm - Max Nov 4, 10:45 2
    - "DigDug: 1 vote" -- nm - oblique - I voted! Nov 4, 10:46 1
      - If I can search every name on a census, I want to see every vote in an election, dammit. -- nm - Max Nov 4, 10:48
- I can see a Texan saying this, not a Floridian -- nm - ty97 Nov 4, 10:42 1
  - ie: me down below!! -- nm - Epiphany Nov 4, 10:57
- What counts is that everyone votes, or as many as possible, and by being an example and voting you are helping that tradition to continue. - TFox Nov 4, 10:39
- that's like saying "$1" doesn't matter. or "one chocolate bar won't ruin my diet", or whatever. it's TRUE, but - Andie Nov 4, 10:39 3
  - $1 does matter; one chocolate bar does matter. - Will Hunting Nov 4, 10:52 2
    - How does $1 of millions or 1 calorie of thousands not matter any more than 1 vote of millions either? - oblique - I voted! Nov 4, 10:53 1
      - a million no-votes matters. more would be nice. - Will Hunting Nov 4, 10:58
- I know in my heart of hearts mine does not count but I do it anyway. - Epiphany Nov 4, 10:38
- I feel that way too...until I start seeing the results of the local elections and propositions and they're decided by a few hundred votes. - Jim Nov 4, 10:38 4
  - I'd kind of enjoy outlawing publication of polling. If we didn't know how our neighbors were voting we might be more alarmed at the possibilities. -- nm - Max Nov 4, 10:41 3
    - i would *fully* support that. -- nm - Andie Nov 4, 10:44 2
      - And of course a popular vote system would eliminate apathy by minority voters in sewn up electoral states. -- nm - Max Nov 4, 10:46 1
        
        *subscribes to Max's newsletter* ... *gets free book-binding and DC tours as an added bonus* -- nm - JaxSean - I Voted, dammit Nov 4, 10:53
exactly. also, how would Will feel if everyone was so apathetic and you just let the complete morons choose who runs your country. -- nm - Andie Nov 4, 10:35 5
- Ummmm... have you dealt much with "the public?" They're mostly morons near as I can tell. -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Nov 4, 10:45
- We already do. - Will Hunting Nov 4, 10:42 1
  - Of course it's not going to get fixed, if intelligent people like you abdicate your right to vote - Mr. Havens Nov 4, 10:45
- liberal elitist morons? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 4, 10:36
- There's that too...after the big ole thing yesterday about not letting stupid people vote or something like that... - Jim Nov 4, 10:36

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