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In response to "I respectfully disagree as that’s the new talking point of those who have been antagonistic during the pandemic. “283 new cases, well how many died?” -- nm" by Qale

it was a shitty point made by stupid people at that time; it's come around to be true under much different circumstances

Posted by Reagen Jul 5 '21, 17:16

and I wouldn't go so far as to say "death" is the only measure - but if it's vaccinated people who test positive but have limited to no symptoms ... then that is the success. COVID Zero isn't a possibility, but the point of vaccines is that they reduce the impact of the smaller number of inevitable breakthroughs, so that hospitals aren't overwhelmed with deathly sick people. We were justified in being worrying about case numbers when we didn't have vaccines - with vaccines, COVID cases eventually become just a nuisance. There is a success measure with this, or what else was all this for?

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I fully support the idea that we, as vaccinated people, largely don’t have to care too much about the day to day numbers. But I’d prefer to give… - Qale Jul 5, 17:23 5
- I think you misunderstand my meaning - Reagen Jul 5, 17:33 4
  - I don’t think I’m misunderstanding you but rather suffering from living in a place where vaccine resistance is far greater and hostility is stronger. - Qale Jul 5, 18:15
  - One complication with this approach is Long Covid. If vaccines aren't enough to tamp down that occurrence, then there could be long term - Beryllium Jul 5, 17:53 2
    - currently, Long COVID with vaccination seems to be very rare. -- nm - Reagen Jul 5, 18:13 1
      - people with compromised immune systems, organ transplants etc can incubate covid for months, one guy in boston fostered 7 varients of his own -- nm - zeitgeist Jul 5, 18:29

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it was a shitty point made by stupid people at that time; it's come around to be true under much different circumstances

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