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In response to "Halladay's run support in losses and NDs: 2.8. Grienke -- nm" by Shaun

sfek. Grienke: 4.17. Damn Jays offence. -- nm

Posted by Shaun (aka bigshaunu) Jun 30 '09, 12:32

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- Well, it's better than Quality Starts, but that's about it. (nm) - musubi Jun 30, 12:35 11
  - Actually, I like quality starts. nm -- nm - groiny Jun 30, 12:38 4
    - see my post below. (nm) - musubi Jun 30, 12:39 3
      - I did, but you give me a SP with 34 starts, and if 25 of them are QS - groiny Jun 30, 12:41 2
        
        The problem is a QS iirc can easily equate to a 4.50 ERA - Will Hunting Jun 30, 13:17
        
        QS are not bad things. But they are not informative stats. Johan Santana and Livan Hernandez have almost the same number of QS's. - musubi Jun 30, 12:44
  - I think QS is one of the best determinations of a team's starter quality. - David Jun 30, 12:38 4
    - huh? nm -- nm - Randy Wolf Jun 30, 12:39
    - QS as a general measure of a total staff's overall quality has some merit. As an individual pitcher measure, it's just about useless. (nm) - musubi Jun 30, 12:39 2
      - I don't get this. nm -- nm - groiny Jun 30, 12:42 1
        
        QS's from the backend of a rotation are much more informative than from the front end. (nm) - musubi Jun 30, 12:45
  - Holds are the best! -- nm - Shaun Jun 30, 12:35
- I just go back to my post earlier today. All he needs is 3 runs. That's it :) -- nm - Shaun Jun 30, 12:35

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