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Ugh. I feel sick. I hope this haunts Biden for the rest of his term. -- nm

Posted by mafic Aug 15 '21, 04:12

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If anything, Biden was the best man to go ahead and pull the plug on it. Everyone previously kicked the can, didn't take responsibility. -- nm - Qale Aug 15, 08:27
Biden, speaking about Afghanistan -- (link) - Strongbad Aug 15, 06:21 13
- Complete and utter failure. Us to understand they don’t fucking care about their own sovereignty; and them for having zero desire to govern - Will Hunting Aug 15, 06:39 12
  - “Look, we set up a shitty government and they did a shitty job. Time to let the fundamentalists take over again.” - mafic Aug 15, 06:59 11
    - The only way to win Afghanistan is nuke it, level the mountains and start fresh. - Will Hunting Aug 15, 07:04 10
      - No. They just can’t fight back without our help. We’re abandoning them to the worst of the worst because it’s easier. -- nm - mafic Aug 15, 07:10 9
        
        They can't fight back with the help, either. (NM) - Marlowe Aug 15, 07:12 8
        
        Sure, but we fucked the country up, it’s up to us to fix it. -- nm - mafic Aug 15, 07:14 7
        
        There doesn't seem to be a possible fix, and it's no more fucked up than it was 25 years ago. (NM) - Marlowe Aug 15, 07:16 6
        
        The country’s been at war continuously for more than 40 years, what do we expect them to do? - mafic Aug 15, 07:25 5
        
        That they didn't bother to offer even token resistance when their capital was threatened tells you all you need to know about their desire to - Will Hunting Aug 15, 08:45 1
        
        Then don’t go in in the first place. You’re gonna fuck the country up, then fix it. - mafic Aug 15, 09:04
        
        There never was a real opportunity for a lasting peace here. We can't will it, or force the issue. 20 years is enough. -- nm - Diva Aug 15, 08:16 2
        
        We’re condemning millions of people to live under the Taliban. - mafic Aug 15, 09:12 1
        
        The people there. Won't. Help. Themselves. -- nm - Diva Aug 15, 13:28
From a twice deployed veteran -- (link) - budice Aug 15, 04:19
It's pretty clear that the only other option would have been "stay forever" - Reagen Aug 15, 04:17 12
- Signed, the Soviet Union Too. -- nm - Diva Aug 15, 05:00 8
  - They were a collapsing empire outspent by the US. NATO is just bailing on an ally. -- nm - mafic Aug 15, 05:55 7
    - Allies fight. This ‘government’ didn’t bother. They lost a country in two weeks. -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 15, 06:42 3
      - And who set the government up and supported it for 20 years? -- nm - mafic Aug 15, 06:45 2
        
        There comes a point where you cut bait. It’s time. They don’t merit more. - Will Hunting Aug 15, 06:48 1
        
        nmbl -- (link) - mafic Aug 15, 06:51 [Backboard]
    - The objective can't be achieved there as is evident by the last 40 years. -- nm* - Diva Aug 15, 06:27 2
      - See also: Korea, Cuba, Israel. -- nm - mafic Aug 15, 06:31 1
        
        There are 28,000 US military personnel in South Korea. That’s the lowest level in 70 years. - mafic Aug 15, 06:39
- (I mean, see also: Korea) -- nm - mafic Aug 15, 04:39
- Is argue that tolerating massive corruption in order to fight the Taliban may have been a mistake. That path was set a long time ago though. -- nm - mafic Aug 15, 04:30 1
  - This, the average commander was like Milo Minderbinder, would have taken money to fire on their own troops, then there's the child sex.... -- nm - zeitgeist Aug 15, 10:05

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