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In response to "Matt Gurney: If the moderates can't hold the CPC, Canada is in deep, deep trouble" by Name Withheld By Request

honestly, that wording sounds like a threat.

Posted by Andie Sep 17 '21, 14:09

like "If you don't elect the Conservatives this time, it will just be worse later. We aren't responsible for our party turning into assholes, that will be your fault."

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I feel like the GOP tried that tack a few years ago, and look how that turned out. - Beryllium Sep 17, 14:21 15
- it is what they are saying, but instead of controlling themselves, they are blaming it on people who DON'T vote for them. -- nm - Andie Sep 17, 14:23 14
  - That's a very paternalistic way of framing it. "Control themselves"? - Name Withheld By Request Sep 17, 14:25 13
    - I think you're mixing up definitions of the word threat in this thread (completely accidentally, I mean). You're saying "this is a looming problem." - Beryllium Sep 17, 14:30 2
      - I view it as a threat on par with climate change. I really do. It’s about existential social fabric in Canada/North America. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 15:03
      - yes. this. -- nm - Andie Sep 17, 14:30
    - The wording in your original post makes it sounds like the future of the Conservative Party will be out of the control of the Conservative Party if -- (edited) - Andie Sep 17, 14:29 9
      - It's 2012 and "Binders full of women" making Romney out to be some sexist religious nut and landing Trump in 2016, then people rediscovering that.... - Name Withheld By Request Sep 17, 14:33 5
        
        Romney is sexist and has sided with the lunatic fringe much more often than not, just less than his counterparts. -- nm - No Longer Calm David Sep 17, 15:00
        
        So, the implication is to reward Romney so you don't get Trump...but if Romney isn't worthy, that's blackmail per se. - Will Hunting Sep 17, 14:55 1
        
        I get what you and David are saying here and maybe it is fair, but the broader point is that there is no leader of either party that will be able to… - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 15:37
        
        Lol. Nice to see the conservative persecution complex is alive and well. -- nm - znufrii Sep 17, 14:43
        
        I think that incident, in tandem with the 47% video, showed exactly who Romney was - Reagen Sep 17, 14:40
      - It's the dril tweet. "Keep yelling 'shut the fuck up' at me, it only makes my opinions worse" -- nm - Reagen Sep 17, 14:31 2
        
        It's not quite that though, at least with me. I think there are those out there that fit, but it's the lack of any humanity being put towards those... - Name Withheld By Request Sep 17, 14:36 1
        
        (I don't mean you, I mean the original sentiment) -- nm - Reagen Sep 17, 14:41
It's an acknowledgement of a threat, yeah. - Name Withheld By Request Sep 17, 14:16 9
- The Liberals ads they started recently are brutal for O'Toole imo. every misstep is being highlighted and beating him over the head with it -- nm - Beaker Sep 17, 14:18 8
  - O'Toole and team have disappointed me by being seemingly flat-footed in response, but this is also why I always say those who.... - Name Withheld By Request Sep 17, 14:23 7
    - I think the piece that's missing is that there's been a lot of societal change in the last fifty years, and the left wing and the right wing have - Roger More Sep 17, 14:46 1
      - There's also the disinformation movement, which is less severe in Canada than elsewhere, but not nothing. - Reagen Sep 17, 14:58
    - It's the tail wagging the dog, IMO - Reagen Sep 17, 14:28
    - to be fair, if there were true moderates it might appeal. - Andie Sep 17, 14:27 3
      - Think back to what they said about Tori when he was the leader of the opposition Siri it’s not an apples to apples comparison. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 14:50 2
        
        I was there, i know. What i am saying is you think people are entrenched and can't be swayed by changes in people, and i was using it as an example -- (edited) - Andie Sep 17, 14:53 1
        
        Sure, but they also elected Ford one election earlier so maybe it’s not the liberal electorate it feels in your circles. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 15:43
Also: "If the fascists really are on the march, do you trust the the Liberals to stop them?" - Guigue Sep 17, 14:14
yup -- nm - Beaker Sep 17, 14:13

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honestly, that wording sounds like a threat.

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