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In response to "Matt Gurney: If the moderates can't hold the CPC, Canada is in deep, deep trouble" by Name Withheld By Request

I think it's right take, but there's also no great solution.

Posted by Roger More (aka RogerMore) Sep 17 '21, 14:22

What's meant to happen - sympathy votes for conservative moderates? When the party is at the same time reaching out to those same voters?

The experience in Australia is that the conservative party moved further to the right, and more worryingly, to the authoritarian side of politics, and the far-right party is in Parliament. (In the Senate, which would not happen in Canada because appointments, but can in Australia because of how the electoral system is structured)

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How about holding their own side to account for the demonization of the moderates? How about accepting that 80% agreement on most issues is... - Name Withheld By Request Sep 17, 14:30 15
- I don't think there's much mood for that these days, and I can see why. It's like saying "vote for Faust" -- nm - Roger More Sep 17, 15:03
- I don't get what he has done that is so devisive...mask and vaccine mandates? no machine guns? acknowledging climate change? -- nm - Beaker Sep 17, 14:50 6
  - The utter shamelessness of announcing a vaccine policy on a Friday, calling an election on Sunday and then…. - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 14:59 4
    - but haven't everyone but the NDP been actively voting for an election? every non-confidence vote they tried to have an election... -- nm - Beaker Sep 17, 15:08 3
      - Because they are the opposition. Seriously, it’s parliamentary tradition to vote against budgets, throne speeches, etc if in opposition. - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 15:30 2
        
        see, I get this (still wouldn't vote for O'Toole given his wishy washy "what's my policy on this again? the offical one or the one I just made up?") -- nm - Beaker Sep 17, 15:34 1
        
        Sure. “He’ll say anytime to get elected” feels right about him and it is why I’m disappointed. But I don’t think for one minute that he isn’t better…. - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 15:41
  - Economics is what they need to work on the most. That would win my brother over (big-time Conservative (Peter McKay and him are buds)) -- nm - Beaker Sep 17, 14:52
- See, your words sound reasonable. Your original quote (not yours), less so. -- nm* - Andie Sep 17, 14:36 6
  - Yes, this is where I land as well. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 17, 14:37 5
    - Guys, with respect, it’s an op-Ed headline. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 14:44 4
      - I ... don't know what that means for this discussion. That it was a waste of time and we should have ignored it? -- nm - Beryllium Sep 17, 14:46 3
        
        Just that it is by design meant to be a provocative quote. It’s the idea is embedded in the piece that now. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 14:51 2
        
        I understand the first part, but the second part word not sense make -- nm - Beryllium Sep 17, 14:55 1
        
        Was using voice. Sorry. My point is that the headline is not how the piece shows be judged. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 14:59

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