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In response to "it is what they are saying, but instead of controlling themselves, they are blaming it on people who DON'T vote for them. -- nm" by Andie

That's a very paternalistic way of framing it. "Control themselves"?

Posted by Name Withheld By Request (aka BlueKopo) Sep 17 '21, 14:25

I'm saying all this rather neutrally and even tempered, which may not come across in print. I just thought it was a good analysis piece and it lines up with what I'm seeing as a Tory activist in the thick of both provincial and federal politics.

Yes, it is a threat. It needs to be acknowledged and dealt with. Trudeau wins Monday. But he is not equipped to deal with the threat. In any way. So where do we go?

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I think you're mixing up definitions of the word threat in this thread (completely accidentally, I mean). You're saying "this is a looming problem." - Beryllium Sep 17, 14:30 2
- I view it as a threat on par with climate change. I really do. It’s about existential social fabric in Canada/North America. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 15:03
- yes. this. -- nm - Andie Sep 17, 14:30
The wording in your original post makes it sounds like the future of the Conservative Party will be out of the control of the Conservative Party if -- (edited) - Andie Sep 17, 14:29 9
- It's 2012 and "Binders full of women" making Romney out to be some sexist religious nut and landing Trump in 2016, then people rediscovering that.... - Name Withheld By Request Sep 17, 14:33 5
  - Romney is sexist and has sided with the lunatic fringe much more often than not, just less than his counterparts. -- nm - No Longer Calm David Sep 17, 15:00
  - So, the implication is to reward Romney so you don't get Trump...but if Romney isn't worthy, that's blackmail per se. - Will Hunting Sep 17, 14:55 1
    - I get what you and David are saying here and maybe it is fair, but the broader point is that there is no leader of either party that will be able to… - Name Withheld by Request Sep 17, 15:37
  - Lol. Nice to see the conservative persecution complex is alive and well. -- nm - znufrii Sep 17, 14:43
  - I think that incident, in tandem with the 47% video, showed exactly who Romney was - Reagen Sep 17, 14:40
- It's the dril tweet. "Keep yelling 'shut the fuck up' at me, it only makes my opinions worse" -- nm - Reagen Sep 17, 14:31 2
  - It's not quite that though, at least with me. I think there are those out there that fit, but it's the lack of any humanity being put towards those... - Name Withheld By Request Sep 17, 14:36 1
    - (I don't mean you, I mean the original sentiment) -- nm - Reagen Sep 17, 14:41

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