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In response to "“That won’t happen,” Manchin tells raju when asked about Pelosi’s comment that they need to .. -- (link)" by mud

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Posted by mud Sep 29 '21, 08:28

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https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1443234952540266503 (twitter.com)

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Who's right, here? The bipartisan bill is already approved in one body, right? Do the progressives think it's a poison pill? - Beryllium Sep 29, 08:37 12
- Infrastructure bill has already passed the senate. The reconciliation spending bill is still being worked out. -- (edited) - znufrii Sep 29, 08:42
- If the Democrats fail to pass infrastructure because they aren't getting their progressive way on a separate bill, they deserve to wander in the - Will Hunting Sep 29, 08:38 10
  - I agree they should take the win, but the second bill needs to happen and they reasonably believe that Manchin and Sinema won't really come through - pmb Sep 29, 09:21
  - It’s all politics until the vote actually happens. I don’t think they’ll let this die. But I also still apparently have an optimistic heart. -- nm - Qale Sep 29, 08:41 1
    - yep -- nm - mud Sep 29, 09:21
  - So manlychinly is in the right? -- nm - Beryllium Sep 29, 08:39 6
    - To me...yes. You have a bill that has bipartisan support. Pass it. It's money in the bank. - Will Hunting Sep 29, 08:46 5
      - They need to use reconciliation on raising the debt ceiling first. - Inigo Sep 29, 08:54 3
        
        They could do them at the same time theoretically. -- nm - pmb Sep 29, 09:18
        
        They need to pass the reconciliation spending bill to call mitch’s bluff on the debt ceiling. -- (edited) - znufrii Sep 29, 09:17 1
        
        It's not a bluff. He won't vote for anything to raise the debt ceiling while a Democrat is in the White House. - Inigo Sep 29, 09:24
      - Seems like the "perfect is the enemy of done" philosophy, adapted to politics. (This is an observation, not a criticism. It seems fine.) -- nm - Beryllium Sep 29, 08:49

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