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In response to
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Apparently there's a story going around about Manchin switching parties -- (link)
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by
ty97
Dem activists are doing their best! -- nm
Posted by
spamlet
Oct 20 '21, 11:25
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What's your suggestion then? Don't push for important things in case we risk Manchin having a fit? -- nm
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ty97
Oct 20, 11:34
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You can push for important things without railroading other, already decided, important things.
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Inigo
Oct 20, 11:40
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And they aren't pushing fringe things. They are pushing things the majority of Americans support. -- nm
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ty97
Oct 20, 11:43
1
They are plenty of things most people in the U.S. want but won't pass through Congress.
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Inigo
Oct 20, 11:47
You can't though. You need leverage to push things. -- nm
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ty97
Oct 20, 11:42
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Yes, you can. There are other ways to push. They just chose the nuclear option.
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Inigo
Oct 20, 11:44
2
I disagree, there's no way to push otherwise. And your IM could speak to Manchin too. He and Sinema are *also* a minority of the party.
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ty97
Oct 20, 11:46
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Push =/ 100% get what you want.
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Inigo
Oct 20, 11:49
First I’d stop framing his opinions as “having a fit”. That works almost as well as “calm down, you’re getting hysterical.”
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Will Hunting
Oct 20, 11:40
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I meant if he were to actually threaten to leave the party, that would be a 'fit'. Spammy suggests Dem 'activists' should walk on eggshells -- nm*
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ty97
Oct 20, 11:42
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There's a difference between "walking on eggshells" and actively trying to push people out of the party.
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spamlet
Oct 20, 11:53
(FWIW, I don't think he's switching nor do I want him to switch, but the man needs to reassess some priorities) -- nm
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ty97
Oct 20, 11:38
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