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These two.. I cant even with these two -- (link) - Jovian Oct 22, 09:43
NPR: Kyrsten Sinema has agreed to a package of tax changes that would meet the .. -- (link) - cogito ergo sum Oct 22, 09:34 4
- "...a source familiar with Sinema's thinking." It's like dowsing in a circle. -- nm - Qale Oct 22, 09:50
- She's objecting to the wrong part of the corporate tax stuff. - spamlet Oct 22, 09:44
- Town Hall in action. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:38 1
  - indeed. -- nm - cogito ergo sum Oct 22, 09:41
A vfx person on Twitter pointed out that adding muzzle flash effects in post is super easy, barely an inconvenience (paraphrased). - Beryllium Oct 22, 09:32 9
- see, i watch a thing on youtube from Cooridor Digital, where they review VFX (they are VFX artists) and many of the movies they review have - tRuMaN Oct 22, 09:50
- So the prop guys here... they're just amateurs? Doesn't this fall back on the producer (Baldwin) who hired them, then? -- nm - Mop Oct 22, 09:45 3
  - Producers, yes. How many producers are on it? -- nm - Andie Oct 22, 09:46 2
    - imdb lists 6, + 6 EPs -- nm - cogito ergo sum Oct 22, 09:49
    - Right. Is he a producer or a Producer? -- nm - spamlet Oct 22, 09:47
- Here's the tweet -- (link) - Beryllium Oct 22, 09:35 2
  - Oh, some director guy chimed in on the thread -- (link) - Beryllium Oct 22, 09:37 1
    - Blasters don't have bullets! -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:39
- The friend i am going to the seance tonight with is a VFX producer and her ex-husband is a gun wrangler. Believe me, we are going to be discussing - Andie Oct 22, 09:34
Update: My mom is out of surgery. We're waiting to speak with the surgeon to see how it went. The surgery ran long by two hours so we're a bit - Krusty Oct 22, 09:21 12
- Good healing thoughts! -- nm - Pippy Oct 22, 09:40
- yeah thats always nerve wracking. - tRuMaN Oct 22, 09:29 3
  - Sadly, it's Long Island so there's no one outside. I can argue with myself but I always end up losing. -- nm - Krusty Oct 22, 09:30 2
    - I mean you could call David and argue about tv shows... but that would probably make it worse. -- nm - tRuMaN Oct 22, 09:41
    - :-D -- nm - cogito ergo sum Oct 22, 09:31
- best wishes ! -- nm - cogito ergo sum Oct 22, 09:28
- Prayers for mom -- nm - ty97 Oct 22, 09:26 2
  - KrustyMom is #1. All others are #2 or lower. -- nm - Full Size Candy Baron Oct 22, 09:29 1
    - 😂😂 -- nm - Krusty Oct 22, 09:53
- she's got this! -- nm - Remlik Oct 22, 09:24
- hang in there, Krusty! -- nm - prayformojo Oct 22, 09:23
- continuing good thoughts. always nerve wracking. -- nm - Andie Oct 22, 09:21
So im guessing Alec Baldwins career is done right ? - eag Oct 22, 09:17 18
- Even if he was totally absolved, I imagine he'd have difficulty returning to acting. He's not gonna feel right in the head. -- nm - Mop Oct 22, 09:44
- He doesn't seem the most stablest of dudes - so I'm thinking he takes himself out of the industry -- nm - Pippy Oct 22, 09:41 2
  - he's a known hothead, verbally abused his daughter on the phone, attacks journalists on the street, etc. -- nm - cogito ergo sum Oct 22, 09:43 1
    - He also had altercations with his former wife Kim Bassinger -- nm - eag Oct 22, 09:47
- Michael Masse continued to work sporadically which considering his profile as an actor felt about right. - Name Withheld By Request Oct 22, 09:24
- I don't see why it would be -- nm - ty97 Oct 22, 09:24
- I think he'll be messed up, psychologically. He might choose to retire. But if it was a pure accident, he could continue acting. - Beryllium Oct 22, 09:23 1
  - Yeah maybe thats the better question does he think hes done - eag Oct 22, 09:26
- I don't think this is on him, I believe the industry will know that. -- nm* - Andie Oct 22, 09:21 6
  - It's mildly complicated by him being a producer. -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 09:24 5
    - Yeah, this. He's the boss too so he'd take some blame even if he wasn't the actor involved. -- nm - Mop Oct 22, 09:43
    - Who was directing? Just hit me I have no idea what the project is. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:25 3
      - Joel Souza -- nm - Beryllium Oct 22, 09:28
      - The second person that was shot. It's Rust, a Western. -- nm - spamlet Oct 22, 09:27 1
        
        IMDB synopsys - decline Oct 22, 09:29
- Assuming the investigation doesn't show anything malicious - No, next question. -- nm - MDH Oct 22, 09:18 1
  - And we really don't know anything at this point. -- nm - spamlet Oct 22, 09:24
- He bounced back from before, and this time it is not his fault. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:18
Dune made $5.1M in 6PM showings last night. I think the weekend is bigger than expected. -- nm - MDH Oct 22, 09:17 3
- watched it on HBO last night. It was good - I kept comparing it to the David Lynch version and it is way better than that (spoil) - decline Oct 22, 09:26
- Is that a lot?... Whoa, just checked and one of the seats beside me has sold. Only two open seats in the row and one is beside me. *is torn* -- (edited) - Spawn Oct 22, 09:18 1
  - Wear a mask, you'll be fine. -- nm - LMS Oct 22, 09:42
Oh man. Peter Scolari died. -- (link) - TWuG Oct 22, 09:15 4
- jebus, same age as me. -- nm - cogito ergo sum Oct 22, 09:27
- crap -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:18
- I wondered why he disappeared on Evil. How sad. -- nm - Remlik Oct 22, 09:18
- :( -- nm - Andie Oct 22, 09:17
Kid, your face makes me recoil -- nm - prayformojo Oct 22, 09:01 1
- Just show each actor a picture of Marty Feldman. -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 09:03
I question the pronouns used in this story. - TWuG Oct 22, 08:48 6
- Can we just appreciate the irony of Egypt trying to keep out Aida? -- nm - Full Size Candy Baron Oct 22, 09:17
- Ships are girls. -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 09:08 1
  - Not in news stories. -- nm - TWuG Oct 22, 09:11
- Ow! My robot balls! -- (link) - Beaker Oct 22, 08:52 [youtube]
- It thinks and creates, therefore it is an entity. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:50 1
  - say what? -- nm - cogito ergo sum Oct 22, 09:01
Prop guns are real guns? I never would have thought that. -- nm - ty97 Oct 22, 08:40 8
- I was going to say, with technology as it is, why are prop guns loaded with anything at all? -- nm - Volnelk Oct 22, 09:33
- ? This is not the first time this has happened. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:47 3
  - I figured things were done differently today. -- nm - ty97 Oct 22, 09:02
  - right. Brandon Lee is a perfect example -- nm - decline Oct 22, 08:56 1
    - '93 was before young ty's time. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:57
- Some are, some aren't. Hero guns (meant for closeups) almost always are. But background guns or stuff not in closeup - TWuG Oct 22, 08:46
- especially in historic things they use actually vintage guns for authenticity. (Which i assume is changing now with things like 3D printing.) -- nm - Andie Oct 22, 08:44 1
  - I just never knew this. (It doesn't change the awfulness of the situation) -- nm - ty97 Oct 22, 08:46
Weekend plans ? -- nm - Andie Oct 22, 08:35 19
- Seance!!! and eye doctor. -- nm - Andie Oct 22, 09:17 2
  - I trust these are separate things. -- nm - TWuG Oct 22, 09:21 1
    - Andie's Sight Weekend Adventure -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:23
- binge Locke & Key tonight. Maybe go out to dinner tomorrow -- nm - decline Oct 22, 09:09
- probably tackle a couple more closets around the house as supposed to rain all weekend -- nm - Beaker Oct 22, 08:56
- Mowing the lawn and then setting up the outdoor Halloween decorations - TWuG Oct 22, 08:56 2
  - No heavy lifting for you though!! -- nm - decline Oct 22, 09:03 1
    - Gravestones are all styrofoam with plexiglass backing. Super light. -- nm - TWuG Oct 22, 09:12
- Trunk or Treat at church tonight. Cat to vet tomorrow morning. Dune (Dolby) tomorrow afternoon. Sunday church + confirmation service. Football -- nm - oblique Oct 22, 08:55 1
  - Nice scare. For a second I thought it was Halloween weekend. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:55
- Running a 10K tomorrow. No other plans. -- nm - Dano Oct 22, 08:52 1
  - I think everything should be measured in backyards now. -- nm - pmb Oct 22, 08:55
- Probably see the Bond movie, hangout with my daughter and work. -- nm - pmb Oct 22, 08:52
- Benefit dinner tonight. Podcast production tomorrow. Holiday cooking on Sunday. - ReluctantCynic Oct 22, 08:51 1
  - You forgot your "Martha Stewart SI". -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:52
- Going to "Evening with Debbie Gibson" at the Grammy Museum this evening, Sat: helping a friend go through, re-arrange storage unit - JD Oct 22, 08:50
- Hayride and s’mores tonight. Circus tomorrow. Apparently dodging tornadoes while driving on Sunday. - spamlet Oct 22, 08:45
- Dune at the theater for sure. -- nm - Jovian Oct 22, 08:45
- Picking up a family pack at our friend's charity BBQ sale. Rack of ribs, brisket, chicken, slaw, dirty rice -- nm - prayformojo Oct 22, 08:40
In honesty, I have always been a fan of finger guns. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:28 5
- pew pew -- nm - decline Oct 22, 08:34 2
  - I would rather see lower budget movies do this than have bad CGI. Bad CGI ruins movies all the time. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:38 1
    - yeah, bad cgi guns are just bad. -- nm - tRuMaN Oct 22, 08:47
- laser cats -- nm - Beaker Oct 22, 08:28 1
  - "Between this and Avatar, it's made a Billion Dollars!" -- nm - JaxSean Oct 22, 08:35
My man! -- (link) - Mop Oct 22, 08:15 4
- Sounds like my Mother - eag Oct 22, 08:49
- I've said most of this in the past 2 hours. -- nm - Beaker Oct 22, 08:29 1
  - Maybe you should take a break from ST, then. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:32
- SAD! -- nm - 45 Oct 22, 08:16
I did watch the first episode of Alice in Borderland last year at some point. Didn't get back to it. -- nm - Shaun Oct 22, 08:07 1
- SG was great but fell apart spoil - Spawn Oct 22, 08:16
Morning discovery: "The Depression Suite"- The Tragically Hip - Name Withheld By Request Oct 22, 08:05 [youtube]
there is someone working for me and every conversation is liking talking to a 5 year old and not a 30 year old. - tRuMaN Oct 22, 08:03 4
- Is he an only child, I wonder? -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 08:46
- fire them -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:05 1
  - i dont have that power. in reality this individual - tRuMaN Oct 22, 08:20
- That's so frustrating -- nm - Krusty Oct 22, 08:04
So some people on Twitter are saying all movie and TV guns should be CGI. Makes sense to me. -- nm - marum scarum Oct 22, 07:58 47
- Making CGI guns is really demanding, you need to track hands and to an insane amount of rotoscoping since hands go behind objects all the time -- (edited) - Guigue Oct 22, 08:43
- This particular incident is an outlier, probably, but the broader issue of set safety is a big deal right now in light of union contract negotiations, I’m guessing. -- (edited) - znufrii Oct 22, 08:35
- Or have them as plastic cosplay high probs that can be cgi'ed upgraded -- nm - Remlik Oct 22, 08:04
- Have "guns" that look like they're firing a bullet. Same motion and reverb, but without the actual bullet inside. -- nm - Inigo Oct 22, 08:02 26
  - No ability to fire a bullet. No chamber in which to place a bullet or a blank. No cartridge at all. - marum scarum Oct 22, 08:08 22
    - I'm actually amazed they couldn't make a prop gun that actually simulates a recoil. Think of all the toys that give motion responses. - pmb Oct 22, 08:22 18
      - Sure but there could be a mechanism inside the gun that at least gives some simulation. For instance in the body when you pull the trigger, - pmb Oct 22, 08:31 13
        
        Ok, but what are you using to create that force? - Reagen Oct 22, 08:36 11
        
        Right. Everything stays internal. But you can still get something to move internally that would feel like recoil. It can be triggered - pmb Oct 22, 08:50 10
        
        But you're not getting it. Without something leaving the gun, you don't get recoil. Equal and opposite. -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 08:55 8
        
        (any kind of device like you're describing you would have the same forward motion as backwards) - Reagen Oct 22, 08:58
        
        You could have an internal piston to duplicate it. (Might not work for semi or full auto, of course) -- nm* - Spawn Oct 22, 08:58 6
        
        See above. Without ejected mass it doesn't work. -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 08:59 5
        
        Yes, there would be some gradual forward pull that would have to be held in check by the holder but when the piston struck it would still create kick. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:18 4
        
        Equal. Opposite. - Reagen Oct 22, 09:22 3
        
        Would require a small amount of training but if you are bringing the gun in an upward motion when (think "draw") when firing it could be hidden. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:28 2
        
        Good luck with your perpetual motion machine. -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 09:30 1
        
        *sets up a Go Fund Me* -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:39
        
        heh. Was about to post "A reverse internal hammer". -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:51
        
        This goes under Reagan's post. -- nm - pmb Oct 22, 08:31
      - F=ma. -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 08:24 3
        
        I was told there would be no math -- nm - oblique Oct 22, 08:27 2
        
        But we didn't promise no physics, and we're taking advantage of the loophole. -- nm - Full Size Candy Baron Oct 22, 08:29 1
        
        *marks for later* -- nm - Beaker Oct 22, 08:30
    - I can get behind no live firing of guns. Part of the process before clapperboard and "Action!" should be triggering guns at ground... - Spawn Oct 22, 08:22
    - We're in agreement. You just said it better than I did. -- nm - Inigo Oct 22, 08:12
    - i agree -- nm - prayformojo Oct 22, 08:11
  - But that is what they already do. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:04 2
    - They have blanks. I'm talking about no bullets at all. CGI the bullets. -- nm* - Inigo Oct 22, 08:05 1
      - But you said same motion and reverb? -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:05
- Helluva burden for cheaper productions. While tragic, the rarity of these events doesn't speak to the need for it. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Oct 22, 08:00 13
  - Further, I wouldn't be surprised if Alec Baldwin just takes a stand and says he'll never use a cartridge-holding weapon in a movie again. Other may follow. -- nm* - marum scarum Oct 22, 08:25 2
    - i bet you never see Alec Baldwin hold a gun, period, in a movie again. -- nm - Andie Oct 22, 08:31 1
      - Yeah. I can't even imagine what he must be feeling right now. -- nm - marum scarum Oct 22, 08:32
  - CGI isn't that expensive anymore/ -- nm - Andie Oct 22, 08:23
  - they already cgi fires. This isn't that much more. -- nm - Remlik Oct 22, 08:15
  - I will agree. If John Wick movies can be safely made, no reason others cannot be. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:14 5
    - That's part of why I think it needs to change. Think of how many times the John Wick crew had to go over and over and over all the weapons. - Inigo Oct 22, 08:35 4
      - No Live Ammunition. That should not be *that* hard. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:25
      - I'm not saying things can't change but think about the flip side of this - there are thousands of productions where these checks have to happen and - Reagen Oct 22, 08:40 2
        
        But isn't that what safety regulations do? They make the people who might otherwise be negligent, safe instead. - Inigo Oct 22, 08:47 1
        
        I don't quite agree - regulations help build expectations and get everyone in line. There's no perfect regulation that you can create but that brings - Reagen Oct 22, 09:07
  - A few deaths now and then are acceptable collateral damage, eh? Maybe. Maybe a lawsuit will change a few production companies' minds. -- nm - marum scarum Oct 22, 08:02 1
    - Well yeah. If we can't talk about these things at the macro level, then that goes down quite the path of risk eliminations in day to day life. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Oct 22, 08:06
- Might as well say all guns in real life, too... But do you mean the shots fired should be CGI? -- nm* - Spawn Oct 22, 07:59 2
  - I mean that the item being held by the actor would be a noise-making gun-shaped thing. Everything else, CGI. -- nm - marum scarum Oct 22, 08:01 1
    - pretty sure Marvel uses fake guns and CGIs the shots and bullets. Think a pic of Fury with a fake green gun or something was about? -- nm - Beaker Oct 22, 08:08

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