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In response to "Have "guns" that look like they're firing a bullet. Same motion and reverb, but without the actual bullet inside. -- nm" by Inigo

No ability to fire a bullet. No chamber in which to place a bullet or a blank. No cartridge at all.

Posted by marum scarum (aka mara) Oct 22 '21, 08:08

"A blank is a firearm cartridge that generates a muzzle flash and an explosive sound (muzzle report) like any normal gunshots, and the firearm experiences a recoil capable of cycling its action, but without shooting a projectile (e.g. bullet or shot). Blanks are often used for shooting simulations that have no need for ballistic results but still demand light and sound effects..."

You need flash? CGI. You need sound? The device can make a noise sufficient to signify the firing of a weapon; and the noise can be enhanced post-production.

Recoil looks too fakey? Bummer. We'll get over it.

Responses:

I'm actually amazed they couldn't make a prop gun that actually simulates a recoil. Think of all the toys that give motion responses. - pmb Oct 22, 08:22 18
- Sure but there could be a mechanism inside the gun that at least gives some simulation. For instance in the body when you pull the trigger, - pmb Oct 22, 08:31 13
  - Ok, but what are you using to create that force? - Reagen Oct 22, 08:36 11
    - Right. Everything stays internal. But you can still get something to move internally that would feel like recoil. It can be triggered - pmb Oct 22, 08:50 10
      - But you're not getting it. Without something leaving the gun, you don't get recoil. Equal and opposite. -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 08:55 8
        
        (any kind of device like you're describing you would have the same forward motion as backwards) - Reagen Oct 22, 08:58
        
        You could have an internal piston to duplicate it. (Might not work for semi or full auto, of course) -- nm* - Spawn Oct 22, 08:58 6
        
        See above. Without ejected mass it doesn't work. -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 08:59 5
        
        Yes, there would be some gradual forward pull that would have to be held in check by the holder but when the piston struck it would still create kick. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:18 4
        
        Equal. Opposite. - Reagen Oct 22, 09:22 3
        
        Would require a small amount of training but if you are bringing the gun in an upward motion when (think "draw") when firing it could be hidden. -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:28 2
        
        Good luck with your perpetual motion machine. -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 09:30 1
        
        *sets up a Go Fund Me* -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 09:39
      - heh. Was about to post "A reverse internal hammer". -- nm - Spawn Oct 22, 08:51
  - This goes under Reagan's post. -- nm - pmb Oct 22, 08:31
- F=ma. -- nm - Reagen Oct 22, 08:24 3
  - I was told there would be no math -- nm - oblique Oct 22, 08:27 2
    - But we didn't promise no physics, and we're taking advantage of the loophole. -- nm - Full Size Candy Baron Oct 22, 08:29 1
      - *marks for later* -- nm - Beaker Oct 22, 08:30
I can get behind no live firing of guns. Part of the process before clapperboard and "Action!" should be triggering guns at ground... - Spawn Oct 22, 08:22
We're in agreement. You just said it better than I did. -- nm - Inigo Oct 22, 08:12
i agree -- nm - prayformojo Oct 22, 08:11

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No ability to fire a bullet. No chamber in which to place a bullet or a blank. No cartridge at all.

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