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MDH, I mostly agree with you. I worry about little kids (for whom there is no approved vaccine -- nm

Posted by amanda jeans (aka amanda) Dec 21 '21, 08:16

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I also very much appreciate this sane and rational and nonpartisan discourse and I love you all. -- nm - amanda jeans Dec 21, 08:30
FTR, the head of the Ontario Science Table (advising committee) said on Dec 13th "This variant here is so absolutely infectious now...This will reach -- (edited) - Candie Cane Dec 21, 08:24 14
- I think that's has already shown, and will show more to be alarmist. - Inigo Dec 21, 08:31 12
  - doesn't O have higher reinfection rates too or has that not been scienced yet? -- nm - amanda jeans Dec 21, 08:33 1
    - I believe that's true. Definitely higher than Delta. -- nm - Inigo Dec 21, 08:55
  - *shrug* let's hope so, but just assuming he's wrong seems dangerous. -- nm - Candie Cane Dec 21, 08:32 9
    - .66% (probably more like .5%) of South Africa being infected by Omicron is not assuming. It's what the data is. - Inigo Dec 21, 08:36 8
      - WHO literally said 3 days ago that it is too soon to say it is less severe. Yes, there are indicators but that is not yet proven. -- (edited) - Candie Cane Dec 21, 08:41 7
        
        I don't have much really to add to the discussion. But I did want to mention that 3 days in OmicronLand is a long ass time in comparison. -- nm - Qale Dec 21, 09:05
        
        It's worth remembering too that Delta was both more transmissible and also more likely to put people in hospital, in the ICU, or in the mortuary than - Roger More Dec 21, 08:51 1
        
        Yeah, there's rules of thumb on this but they aren't carved in stone like some sort of equation. Biology is messy. -- nm - Reagen Dec 21, 08:57
        
        Sure, let's be cautious since this is early in the variant's life. But we should also be cautious about how many people will get infected, too. - Inigo Dec 21, 08:46 3
        
        the 24 hour news cycle is so dangerous here. we are so used to "information now" that "chill while science works" isn't acceptable. there are no - amanda jeans Dec 21, 09:04 1
        
        this is such a good point. things get reported, then we know more, and everyone is stuck on what was first said. (See the doc who first said vaccines - Candie Cane Dec 21, 09:36
        
        Also, thank you for having a calm discussion about this, Andie, MDH, mandy and all. :) -- nm - Inigo Dec 21, 08:55
- Thank for posting this. I said I was speaking the exact scientist points...every single person. -- nm - MDH Dec 21, 08:30
) and the immunocomprimised. most stores here have special shopping hours for the elderly and the immunocomprimsed, which solves part of the problem. - amanda jeans Dec 21, 08:23 2
- I don't think masking forever is the answer, nor is it inevitable. We don't know what happens next. - loosilu who Dec 21, 08:25 1
  - ....after january of 2024. -- nm - amanda jeans Dec 21, 08:27
I think there's a whole world between worrying about the people who will be infected (especially our elderly and babies) and saying... - Inigo Dec 21, 08:21 5
- i think it eventually turns to something like a cold, and this is maybe that first step. but we don't just surrender and let it run. -- nm - Candie Cane Dec 21, 08:25
- I honestly think that without very strict vax mandates, this is here forever. I think the science bears that out. I bet you $15 (american) that in jan - amanda jeans Dec 21, 08:24 3
  - 61.5% of the whole U.S. is fully vaccinated. A little over 70% has one dose. - Inigo Dec 21, 08:40
  - Yup. -- nm - MDH Dec 21, 08:31
  - We talk about the flu in the present tense, so I wouldn't take that bet. -- nm - loosilu who Dec 21, 08:30

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