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FTR, the head of the Ontario Science Table (advising committee) said on Dec 13th "This variant here is so absolutely infectious now...This will reach -- (edited)

Posted by Candie Cane (aka Andie) Dec 21 '21, 08:24

every single person. Statistically speaking, there will be very few lucky ones."

And that is HERE - where we have ALWAYS had a mask mandate and limits and have a more than 80% of people over the age of 5 are fully vaccinated.

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full paragraph here:
The doubling time for Omicron in Ontario is now projected to be every three days, according to the Science Advisory Table.

"This variant here is so absolutely infectious now... This will reach every single person. Statistically speaking, there will be very few lucky ones," Jüni said.

"Once everybody has reached immunity, the game probably will change a bit. I would expect 2022, somewhere in spring, to change but first we need to get there and right now it grows very explosively."

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I think that's has already shown, and will show more to be alarmist. - Inigo Dec 21, 08:31 12
- doesn't O have higher reinfection rates too or has that not been scienced yet? -- nm - amanda jeans Dec 21, 08:33 1
  - I believe that's true. Definitely higher than Delta. -- nm - Inigo Dec 21, 08:55
- *shrug* let's hope so, but just assuming he's wrong seems dangerous. -- nm - Candie Cane Dec 21, 08:32 9
  - .66% (probably more like .5%) of South Africa being infected by Omicron is not assuming. It's what the data is. - Inigo Dec 21, 08:36 8
    - WHO literally said 3 days ago that it is too soon to say it is less severe. Yes, there are indicators but that is not yet proven. -- (edited) - Candie Cane Dec 21, 08:41 7
      - I don't have much really to add to the discussion. But I did want to mention that 3 days in OmicronLand is a long ass time in comparison. -- nm - Qale Dec 21, 09:05
      - It's worth remembering too that Delta was both more transmissible and also more likely to put people in hospital, in the ICU, or in the mortuary than - Roger More Dec 21, 08:51 1
        
        Yeah, there's rules of thumb on this but they aren't carved in stone like some sort of equation. Biology is messy. -- nm - Reagen Dec 21, 08:57
      - Sure, let's be cautious since this is early in the variant's life. But we should also be cautious about how many people will get infected, too. - Inigo Dec 21, 08:46 3
        
        the 24 hour news cycle is so dangerous here. we are so used to "information now" that "chill while science works" isn't acceptable. there are no - amanda jeans Dec 21, 09:04 1
        
        this is such a good point. things get reported, then we know more, and everyone is stuck on what was first said. (See the doc who first said vaccines - Candie Cane Dec 21, 09:36
        
        Also, thank you for having a calm discussion about this, Andie, MDH, mandy and all. :) -- nm - Inigo Dec 21, 08:55
Thank for posting this. I said I was speaking the exact scientist points...every single person. -- nm - MDH Dec 21, 08:30

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