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In response to "So you wouldn’t think Kelce is worth a 3rd and an 11th? " by Will Hunting

Kelce is worth a lot, but if David wants to keep 10, he would have to throw eight of the people he wants to keep back into the draft pool.

Posted by crash davis (aka crash davis) Jan 3 '22, 12:51

A third round pick means you can only keep two people.

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Crash's IM is correct. -- nm - The Allfather Jan 3, 13:31 7
- That’s genuinely dumb. It’s dumb enough if that’s the way it is, I think I’m out. Needlessly complex. Even in the pros, you trade from your annual - Will Hunting Jan 3, 14:16 6
  - You're not thinking this through. If I trade you my first round pick, it's the equivalent of round 13 or 14. -- nm - The Allfather Jan 3, 14:21 5
    - Also, if Crash and you both offer me their 2nd pick, in your example, if you keep 9 and he keeps 6…I lose 3 rounds of picks taking your offer. - Will Hunting Jan 3, 14:34
    - No. I get the 3-11 pick for Kelce. You spend your 11-11 to keep him and 9 others. - Will Hunting Jan 3, 14:23 3
      - But I don't have a 3-11 pick. My first pick wouldn't be until 11-11 if I keep 10 players. - The Allfather Jan 3, 14:34 2
        
        And I set the draft thread … I put each keeper up with a round:pick #. I even made a joke about Crash keeping the worst Seahawk as his #1 pick just -- (edited) - Will Hunting Jan 3, 14:45
        
        Keepers get set *after* trades are done. Each of those picks were legitimate picks. They were just retained picks. - Will Hunting Jan 3, 14:38
No. It means I get your third round pick. You just lose the 1st,2nd,4th,5th …. On down. You have 15 picks to spend however. - Will Hunting Jan 3, 12:56 20
- Hunting's post is super-duper-mega-wrong. -- nm - The Allfather Jan 3, 13:31 1
  - so a normal Hunting post, then -- nm - groiny Jan 3, 13:49
- If this is possible, I'll give you the fifth overall pick for Kelce right now. But I don't think it is possible. -- nm - crash davis Jan 3, 13:04 5
  - Oh, we execute the trade right now before we announce our keepers? Lets do it! -- nm - crash davis Jan 3, 13:10 4
    - I think we need clarification because there’s a large gap in potentials here. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 3, 13:12 3
      - That we do, but if it is possible to trade draft picks before the keeper round, I'm offering up my #1 -- nm - crash davis Jan 3, 13:13 2
        
        Crash, what you should be doing right now... - The Allfather Jan 3, 13:39 1
        
        yep, I think Michael Thomas is my best offer -- nm - crash davis Jan 3, 14:04
- We'll need David to weigh in on this, now or later. - Strongbad Jan 3, 13:02 3
  - If you trade a third round pick, you're saying you will only keep two players. - The Allfather Jan 3, 13:37 1
    - This makes sense. Thanks. -- nm - Strongbad Jan 3, 13:47
  - Keepers are your highest picks. Otherwise, trades have no foundation. “I’ll take your first pick”. You keep 10 guys. I get an 11? - Will Hunting Jan 3, 13:08
- This approach makes more sense to me, but to my understanding, as of the last time i brought it up, it hasn’t actually been determined how it will work going forward -- nm* - znufrii, exceeded expectations Jan 3, 13:01 7
  - It was determined because some people made trades and needed clarification. - The Allfather Jan 3, 13:33 6
    - I'm with Will that it makes more sense the other way as he explains more specifically elsewhere in this thread. - znufrii Jan 3, 14:28 5
      - Trades have already been made for 2022. So, I don't follow your logic...and I definitely don't follow Hunting's. - The Allfather Jan 3, 14:38 4
        
        I think that approach overcomplicates things, tbh. - znufrii Jan 3, 14:44 3
        
        Everyone doesn't start with a pick in each round. - The Allfather Jan 3, 14:50 2
        
        I understand just fine how you have constructed it. - znufrii Jan 3, 14:56
        
        No. You spent the first 12 rounds on keepers. They don’t magically appear depending on your keepers. Every pick is a choice. Keep or draft. Keep - Will Hunting Jan 3, 14:52

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Kelce is worth a lot, but if David wants to keep 10, he would have to throw eight of the people he wants to keep back into the draft pool.

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