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In response to "Heh. Holmes related. -- (link)" by Beryllium

That stood out to me when I looked. Hard to figure how she wasn't defrauding customers. -- nm

Posted by TWuG Jan 3 '22, 17:22

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The charges were “Conspiring to commit wire fraud against patients” and “Conspiring to commit wire fraud against investors”. So I can see how they came to that verdict. -- nm* - Mop Jan 3, 18:07
Unless she had direct contact with the rich and overtly lied to them vs non-direct lies to normals. - Will Hunting Jan 3, 17:27 9
- *She* defrauded the investors. The *company* defrauded patients. -- nm - znufrii Jan 3, 17:55 8
  - Wasn't she key in designing the fraud? -- nm - ty97 Jan 3, 18:12 5
    - ("The Company" isn't a sentient being. It didn't made any decisions) -- nm - ty97 Jan 3, 18:13 4
      - for the purposes of contracts it is, which is why you can sue a company for malfeasance and don't have to go after the execs individually. -- nm - Reagen Jan 3, 18:17 2
        
        That's for a civil suits. This is criminal court we are talking about. -- nm - ty97 Jan 3, 18:22 1
        
        Corporations can be charged with crimes as well. They just don't go "to prison". -- nm - Reagen Jan 3, 18:27
      - corporations are people too! -- nm - znufrii Jan 3, 18:17
  - At some point, the CEO has to be responsible for what the company does. -- nm - TWuG Jan 3, 18:09 1
    - Then why isn't the CEO of VW in jail when they conspired to evade emissions laws on diesels that were so popular - zeitgeist Jan 3, 19:06

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