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In response to "But that's Crash trading a pick he doesn't own. It's like me trading a Ferrari. I can't do that because I don't have one. -- nm" by The Allfather

He owns them all. He owns all 15 picks until the Keepers are locked and he uses the X first # of picks on his keepers.

Posted by Will Hunting (aka kelly) Jan 3 '22, 18:07

The trades and the usage of draft picks on keepers are two transactions.

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At which point, he would have traded the third round pick, forcing him to only keep two players, one of whom damn sure better be Travis Kelce. - The Allfather Jan 3, 18:08 4
- No. I clearly say he's keeping Russell, DK, with 1-8, 2-8, I have his 3-8, he's using his 4-8 to keep his 3rd keeper, 5-8, 6-8, 7-8 is the Kelce spot - Will Hunting Jan 3, 18:19
- which is why we're saying "first x picks", not "picks in the first x rounds". -- nm* - znufrii Jan 3, 18:13
- which short circuits any trade for picks above, say, the 6th round. -- nm - Reagen Jan 3, 18:11 1
  - For teams with lots of keepers, yeah. We've already had trades. - The Allfather Jan 3, 18:13
so if he trades his first rounder he gets to keep no one? -- nm - Beaker Jan 3, 18:08 14
- If he trades his 1st round pick --- any keepers start at his 2nd rounder. So if you're stuck with a shitty team (me), there's no chance you're - Will Hunting Jan 3, 18:18 11
  - So then you make player for player trades. The new rules force creativity all the way around, starting with last year's draft. - The Allfather Jan 3, 18:23 10
    - No, I'm trying to trade an asset for another asset knowing that each side knows *EXACTLY* what they're getting / giving up - Will Hunting Jan 3, 18:25 9
      - Which would be great if CRASH HAD 3-8. - The Allfather Jan 3, 18:27 8
        
        Why do you keep thinking this trade is happening after the Keepers happen? They get locked like 24 hours before the draft. I'm making this deal 8 -- (edited) - Will Hunting Jan 3, 18:32 7
        
        because he decided that "first x picks" for keepers actually means "picks in the first x rounds" - znufrii Jan 3, 18:41 3
        
        Sincere question: how else could it work? - The Allfather Jan 3, 18:47 2
        
        They each had 15 draft picks. At the time of the draft, one of them chose to spend their top 2 picks on 2 keepers. The other chose to spend their top 8 picks on 8 keepers. -- (edited) - Will Hunting Jan 3, 18:57
        
        *original reply deleted* - znufrii Jan 3, 18:51
        
        Yes, 3-8 does happen too. I pick my 4th player since I either picked with 1-2, 2-2, 3-2 (either fresh player or a keeper) - Will Hunting Jan 3, 18:34 2
        
        You shouldn't, just like Crash shouldn't only keep one other player to get Kelce. So, you'll have to be more creative with trades. -- nm - The Allfather Jan 3, 18:40 1
        
        Actually I don't need to. There's no reason to trade. There's no reason to be creative. - Will Hunting Jan 3, 18:47
- Correct. So, don't do that. -- nm - The Allfather Jan 3, 18:15
- Which is another huge flaw. -- nm - Reagen Jan 3, 18:09

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He owns them all. He owns all 15 picks until the Keepers are locked and he uses the X first # of picks on his keepers.

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