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LIR: Votes only seem to not matter in retrospect. Prior to counting them, they matter as much as every other -- nm

Posted by oblique - I voted! (aka kkuphal) Nov 4 '08, 14:32

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Sheesh, it's like NOBODY saw 'Swing Vote'! - Candidate Vermin Nov 4, 14:35
it's like the guy who shoots the goal in a game that makes a team win 3:2 - M Nov 4, 14:33
Then why do the candidates spend weeks some states and never visit others? -- nm - Stewie Nov 4, 14:33 16
- Because voting is by state and states that ride close to 50/50 require more attention - oblique - I voted! Nov 4, 14:35 11
  - I never said pointless...I said they don't count the same - Stewie Nov 4, 14:38 10
    - No, because each state is itself a separate election. Each vote in that state matters as much as the next -- nm - oblique - I voted! Nov 4, 14:40 3
      - Agreed...but state to state they don't count the same - Stewie Nov 4, 14:43 2
        
        Your individual vote isn't considered nationally. Your state decision is. I call shenanigans for trying to make the comparsion when they are not the - oblique - I voted! Nov 4, 14:44
        
        Which ours is. -- nm - Inigo Nov 4, 14:44
    - I've always been in favor of dumping the electoral system and going to a popular vote. -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 14:39 5
      - Abolish the US Senate! -- nm - psilotum Nov 4, 14:52
      - you unamerican bastard! - dogbert183 Nov 4, 14:41
      - me too -- nm - Stewie Nov 4, 14:41
      - so you have an unpopular vote now? -- nm - M Nov 4, 14:40 1
        
        unpopular with some -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 14:40
- strategy - they are trying to change the most minds as possible in their time frame. and, they have to be *somewhere*. -- nm - Andie Nov 4, 14:34 3
  - if it was about changing the most minds they'd go where people most disagreed with them - Stewie Nov 4, 14:36 2
    - If it was a popular vote, maybe, but it's not. It's 50 state elections -- nm - oblique - I voted! Nov 4, 14:38
    - hey, i think your system needs revamping, don't try to convince me of that. :) -- nm - Andie Nov 4, 14:37
Which indicates that the the way they seem prior to the count is just an illusion. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 14:32 8
- What if Monty Hall offers a third candidate after you've already voted? -- nm - Max Nov 4, 14:41 1
  - I kick him in the nuts. Next question. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 14:54
- Schroedinger's Electoral College? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 4, 14:35
- Not to belabor, but if you run a stop sign and nothing happens, it had no effect. However, what if everyone did this? -- nm - con_carne Nov 4, 14:35 4
  - What-if's are theoretical constructs that have nothing to do with reality. I don't run stop signs because I'm trying not to get hit, not because of a - mara Nov 4, 14:51
  - I would get to work quicker? -- nm - dogbert183 Nov 4, 14:37 1
    - depends on how many others run over red lights .. -- nm - M Nov 4, 14:38
  - are you trying to encourage or discourage voting, by alluding to traffic accidents? :) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 4, 14:35

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