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Democrats have been souring on Biden since last summer. -- (link)

Posted by Inigo (aka Inigo) Feb 22 '22, 07:12

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If Biden's approval rating still sits at 41% when the midterms hit, Democrats will be as much to blame as Republicans and Independents. Inflation boogeyman FTL! (fivethirtyeight.com)

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The CW is that he should be less ambitious and just "get stuff done". The CW is BS and his approval is low because he isn't progressive enough. - TWuG Feb 22, 07:35 20
- Student loan forgiveness polling is a mixed bag. Forgiving all student loans does not poll well. - ty97 Feb 22, 07:57 3
  - Biden is only able to cancel fed loan debt. And that's all he's being asked to do. As usual, Dem messaging misses saying that. - TWuG Feb 22, 08:01 1
    - Improved messaging would be good, but forgiving *all* of that debt has low support. - ty97 Feb 22, 08:09
  - The vocal contingent of "Forgive all loans or we don't vote for Dems" is an exact representation of the party's issues. -- nm - MDH Feb 22, 08:01
- Most of the things you mention in the IM are popular to a vocal twitter crowd, and no one else. -- nm - MDH Feb 22, 07:40 14
  - You're wrong.Progressive policies are exceedingly popular. -- nm - TWuG Feb 22, 07:45 1
    - Virtually every progressive lost in 2020 and since then. They aren't winning, and neither are their policies. -- nm - MDH Feb 22, 07:47
  - If anything they’re listening too much to the extremely Twitter crowd already. -- nm - spamlet Feb 22, 07:44 11
    - Agreed. Enough with getting rid of the filibuster. 2 Senators just won't do it. - Inigo Feb 22, 07:52 6
      - And: Fair or not, the President's party get hit with the failures to succeed. Trying to be like "Don't blame me, blame the Senate" doesn't really work - ty97 Feb 22, 07:54 4
        
        But they're not any more inept than the Republicans under Trump. - Inigo Feb 22, 07:58 3
        
        I'm not arguing that any of it is fair!!! -- nm - ty97 Feb 22, 08:10
        
        It’s a double standard though. Republicans don’t really need to pass anything to achieve their goals. Democrats do. -- nm - znufrii Feb 22, 08:02 1
        
        This. -- nm - TWuG Feb 22, 08:04
      - Agreed here as well. -- nm - MDH Feb 22, 07:54
    - YUP. Student Debt is absolutely radioactive to anyone not living in twittersphere and many people do not understand it. -- nm - MDH Feb 22, 07:48
    - Expand? I'm not sold on this? -- nm - ty97 Feb 22, 07:47 2
      - The Twitterverse is not at all reflective of the country as a whole but it’s what matters to who is in government. - spamlet Feb 22, 08:06 1
        
        I agree that lefty Twitter is a loud minority. I'm not convinced that it is getting heavily oversized coverage in the media? - ty97 Feb 22, 08:12
- See my post below. I think that's *part* of it but by no means the complete picture. - ty97 Feb 22, 07:38
Democrats are big dumb babies. -- nm - Dark Callisto Feb 22, 07:30 14
- (Like, think back to 2020 and then remember that today is pretty okay.) -- nm - Dark Callisto Feb 22, 07:31 13
  - I think it's a combo of some dems being unhappy with inflation (which will always hurt a president, just like gas prices) - ty97 Feb 22, 07:35 2
    - No one would have gotten more done in Congress given these razor thin margins. It wouldn't have mattered who the President was at this point, imo. -- nm - Inigo Feb 22, 07:37 1
      - This may be true! -- nm - ty97 Feb 22, 07:38
  - Right, unemployment is down, wages are up, we have a decent, sane, moral leader, we now have an Infrastruture bill... - Inigo Feb 22, 07:34 9
    - I'm happy about the infra bill, we needed it! It's just not something that's going to register with your average voter. - ty97 Feb 22, 07:37 7
      - We're talking about Democrats. Not just average voters. - Inigo Feb 22, 07:39 5
        
        I'm talking about average Democrat voters. Remember that we are tuned in exponentially more than your average (Democrat or otherwise) voter. - ty97 Feb 22, 07:46 4
        
        oh one more! - ty97 Feb 22, 07:52 3
        
        Sure, but this type of waning of support doesn't happen with Republican voters. - Inigo Feb 22, 08:01 2
        
        "It takes one reason for a Democrat not to support someone, and one reason for a GOP to support them" -- nm - MDH Feb 22, 08:02
        
        I agree! -- nm - ty97 Feb 22, 08:02
      - This. That bill is wonderful, and did absolutely nothing to gain ground with any voters. -- nm - MDH Feb 22, 07:38
    - Wages are up less than inflation, ergo wage are down. -- nm - ty97 Feb 22, 07:36
Inflation, gas prices, and mask mandates. -- nm - MDH Feb 22, 07:26 3
- I don't think mask mandates are what's keeping his Democratic numbers down. Inflation and gas prices are definitely true, though. -- nm - Inigo Feb 22, 07:35 2
  - DCCC Polling Contested Districts: 57% of voter believe Dems have gone too far with COVID restrictions. 66% of swing voters. -- nm - MDH Feb 22, 07:37 1
    - But again that's not *Democratic* voters. -- nm - Reagen Feb 22, 07:46

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