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Because... is it "untold" or "untolled"? That is, "unreported," or "uncounted"? -- nm
Posted by
second gary (aka second gary)
Jul 8 '09, 16:25
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Responses:
Whenever you're referring to numbers, it's untolled. -- nm
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mara
Jul 8, 16:30
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though here is another meaning to "untolled" ;) -- (link)
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the liioulu with fabric flowers and real cake
Jul 8, 16:37
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And a similar but slightly different one from that. -- (link)
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the liioulu with fabric flowers and real cake
Jul 8, 16:40
can you link me to a definition of untolled? -- nm
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b.
Jul 8, 16:37
No, I'm wrong -- it's usually untolled for things that aren't numbers, too. The only time you use untold if you're literally referring to things that
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mara
Jul 8, 16:33
3
The counting isn't literal. -- nm
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the liioulu with fabric flowers and real cake
Jul 8, 16:34
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No, it has to do with the tolling of bells marking an occasion. -- nm
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mara
Jul 8, 16:36
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In some cases they toll the bells once for each death.
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the liioulu with fabric flowers and real cake
Jul 8, 16:39
weirdly, I have never even considered this as an alternate spelling of the expression.
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TFox
Jul 8, 16:32
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It could be "untolled" deaths. Since bells are tolled to mark a death, "untolled" would be a death that passes unnoticed or unmarked. -- nm
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TWuG
Jul 8, 16:36
I'm having difficulty documenting this, but here's the justification -- (link)
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mara
Jul 8, 16:36
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Google returns less than 9,000 results for "untolled", and over 8 million for "untold". -- nm
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TFox
Jul 8, 16:38
9
And dictionary.reference.com didn't like it at all -- (link)
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the liioulu with fabric flowers and real cake
Jul 8, 16:42
And Webster's even defines "untold" as "too great or too numerous to be counted or measured; incalculable untold wealth" -- (link)
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TFox
Jul 8, 16:40
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Yeah, I'm not liking my results at all. I think I'll put it in the "keep at eye out for" file. -- nm
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mara
Jul 8, 16:50
that's what i remembered. i don't think they have an entry for untolled, do they? -- nm
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b.
Jul 8, 16:42
Definition #2. -- nm
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the liioulu with fabric flowers and real cake
Jul 8, 16:41
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search for "untolled", tell me if you like that definition better.
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TFox
Jul 8, 16:42
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Got two results above. -- nm
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the liioulu with fabric flowers and real cake
Jul 8, 16:43
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Those aren't definitions; they are poorly written blogs.
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TFox
Jul 8, 16:45
1
The proper word seems to be untold, which is descended from the Old English via Middle English. The original word was unteald meanind not counted.
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the liioulu with fabric flowers and real cake
Jul 8, 16:53
untold. -- nm
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b.
Jul 8, 16:30
"An untold number of deaths..." Is this what you mean? -- nm
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TWuG
Jul 8, 16:29
Well it depends if it hasn't been reported or hasn't been counted. -- nm
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the liioulu with fabric flowers and real cake
Jul 8, 16:27
untold -- nm
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con_carne
Jul 8, 16:26
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