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THe SEction C stuff is horrible. Now I'm going to express an opinion that won't be popular.

Posted by loosilu (aka loosilu2) Jun 3 '22, 16:01

So, I don't support trans women competing in women's sports.
Here's why.

It is true that HRT reduces muscle mass/strength so they are not equal to males. Does it make their muscles equivalent to bio females? at this time we don't know. And this is related to part two.

A body that undergoes puberty in the presence of male hormones undergoes many changes, some of which are irreversible. Chief among these is bone growth. This confers height, and it also changes overall body geometry in a way that is athletically advantageous. HRT cannot reverse this.

I understand this is not popular.

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I understand your position but there are people who are women from birth who have those same heights and bone densities. - zork Jun 3, 16:30
I get what you're saying (as a fellow scientist and a biologist), but consider this. -- (edited) - RelutantCynic (Oregon State Beaver Believer) Jun 3, 16:23 7
- But the top ten women vs the bottom ten men isn't representative. The mean is quite different. - loosilu Jun 4, 10:47
- Better said than my post -- nm - zork Jun 3, 16:38 5
  - Only because I've been making these arguments since 2007. -- (edited) - RelutantCynic (Oregon State Beaver Believer) Jun 3, 16:45 4
    - Too bad most social media crusaders would find no problem with your IM. It won't be them risking their asses on the streets when stuff does pop off. -- nm - con_carne Jun 3, 17:24
    - Thing is I think this is about more than trans athletes, I think it's also about hurting women's sports and women in general. -- nm - . Jun 3, 17:04 2
      - Oh God yes. - RelutantCynic (Oregon State Beaver Believer) Jun 3, 17:07 1
        
        People such as Lori Laughlin's daughter's taking up spaces is the real problem. - zork Jun 3, 17:27
You're not the only person here who has questioned this. I struggle with the issue myself. I don't have a perfect answer and why I struggle with - pmb Jun 3, 16:18 1
- I like what you're saying. - RelutantCynic (Oregon State Beaver Believer) Jun 3, 16:48
It's not popular because it's incorrect. Women are women, trans or not -- nm - TWuG Jun 3, 16:15

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