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In response to "Roe and Casey are overruled -- nm" by decline

I do think this will make tons of people vote for Democrats this November. -- nm

Posted by Inigo (aka Inigo) Jun 24 '22, 07:19

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Well that's a huge fucking relief, those worthless dicks. - colin Jun 24, 07:39
I'm going to level set so we can just get ahead of this. It's going to have zero impact. Dems are going to get wiped out. - MDH Jun 24, 07:27 51
- Having a pretty major court case decision that’s stood for decades overturned is pretty much an earthquake. -- nm* - Qale As Folk Jun 24, 08:30
- This is the attitude that the people doing these things want and NEED you to have. -- nm - David Jun 24, 08:01
- I think it's an uphill battle, but we don't know a lot of things still. I don't think the impact of these decisions is nothing. It will get more - pmb Jun 24, 07:34 18
  - Sabato has a net of 36 toss-up House seats. That’s the over-under line for me on GOP gains. - Will Hunting Jun 24, 07:52 14
    - I do think the Republicans have done the Democrats some favors in several Senate races by whom they have nominated. - Dano Jun 24, 08:23
    - Swing Voter: "Gas prices. Economy. Inflation." -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 08:15 5
      - For some, sure. Probably even most. But not all. But more importantly turnout is typically much lower in midterms so it amplifies those swing votes - pmb Jun 24, 08:21 2
        
        That doesn't seem to be true about midterms (lower turnout) anymore I thought? -- nm - ty97 Jun 24, 08:25 1
        
        It’s lower still. -- nm - Will Hunting Jun 24, 08:27
      - Yep. And “well, they passed a gun bill so they’re trying.” -- nm - Will Hunting Jun 24, 08:16 1
        
        this. this is the only reason some got on board. Its a great 'feather in the cap' right before elections. -- nm - Jovian Jun 24, 08:26
    - I've also got a poli-sci degree, and data analysis is, in my view, premature at the moment. The reason that we typically have these wave elections in -- (edited) - pmb Jun 24, 08:07 6
      - Well said. Like 2020, this isn't going to be an election that has any prior model we can use for comparison. - David Jun 24, 08:17 5
        
        The gerrymandering will give the republicans a few seats in the house automatically. But it does make some other races less clear. -- nm - pmb Jun 24, 08:22
        
        2020 …you mean the election that went GOP outside of Trump and the seats he tanked? - Will Hunting Jun 24, 08:22 3
        
        The mail-in one where the GOP guy controlled the mail yet they still lost the big one, yeah. - David Jun 24, 08:28 1
        
        Okay, the rules are simple…popular vote doesn’t matter. It hasn’t for 230 years so…. Trump came closer to a 2nd term than Hillary did to a 1st. - Will Hunting Jun 24, 08:37
        
        Yep. But your last sentence should read: Reality is, the country is finding that it likes fascism more than democracy. -- nm - Jovian Jun 24, 08:24
  - Yeah. I think the House is gone (Dems have a structural disadvantage there on top of everything else), but the Senate is still up for grabs. -- nm - Dano Jun 24, 07:44
  - This is probably where I am right now. I don't know what impact it will/won't have. - ty97 Jun 24, 07:38
  - I Much Prefer this take to the doomsayers. -- nm - mud Jun 24, 07:36
- Thanks Debbie Downer. Keep up the doomsaying so people see it as a foregone conclusion. That's definitely helpful. -- nm - TWuG Jun 24, 07:30 25
  - Burying your head in the sand has certainly worked well so far, keep it up! -- nm - ty97 Jun 24, 07:34 17
    - Both of you need to stop being so damn negative. You make the bad outcome more likely by accepting defeat now when work and attitude are important. -- nm - TWuG Jun 24, 07:37 16
      - Voting doesn't work. Direct action does. It's time for direct action. You can't vote your way out of this shit. - colin Jun 24, 07:44
      - This is utterly false. -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 07:39
      - That's false and ridiculous -- nm - ty97 Jun 24, 07:38 13
        
        It's called self-fulfilling prophecy and and the baking-in of negative expectations in life. Even the Fed Chairman talked about it a couple weeks ago -- nm - con_carne Jun 24, 07:40 8
        
        If I have a national TV show with millions of viewers, then talk to me about that. I don't though. - ty97 Jun 24, 07:42 7
        
        More importantly, see my post above to pmb, I don't even consider it a foregone conclusion! I think it's a tough environment for the Dems.... - ty97 Jun 24, 07:44 6
        
        Respectfully, the problem here is... - David Jun 24, 08:13 2
        
        Are you all high today? That's not at all what happened. -- nm - ty97 Jun 24, 08:30
        
        okay that last sentence made me chuckle for the pure visualization of it -- nm - St. Epiphany Jun 24, 08:15
        
        I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about, you appear to be talking past me and not know what I meant to say. -- nm - con_carne Jun 24, 07:48 2
        
        Not at all, I'm speaking directly to you. - ty97 Jun 24, 07:49 1
        
        When you have bad expectations in life, it creates a self-fulfilling prophecy because no one wants to learn they have made bad choices in life. - con_carne Jun 24, 07:54
        
        "Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election because ty97 posted on ST that Trump might win" - NYT -- nm - ty97 Jun 24, 07:39 3
        
        You words have an audience. I'm assuming that audience is broader than ST. If you're only negative here, your impact is negligible - TWuG Jun 24, 08:01 1
        
        I don't really discuss politics outside of here since this is (WAS) a place you could openly voice opinions. Not anymore I guess. - ty97 Jun 24, 08:14
        
        whoa -- nm - mud Jun 24, 07:41
  - Please don't delude yourself into thinking there's any other option. I'd rather you understand now. -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 07:32 6
    - Oh, for the love of... -- nm - David Jun 24, 08:04
    - Is it because you're bad at handling disappointment and you think everyone else must be bad at it too? - con_carne Jun 24, 07:37 1
      - Yes, and setbacks build character. -- nm - David Jun 24, 08:06
    - Whatever, doomsayer. And more broadly, screw defeatism and castrophizing. It's unhealthy and destructive. -- nm - TWuG Jun 24, 07:35 2
      - THis. -- nm - loosilu Jun 24, 07:44
      - yep -- nm - mud Jun 24, 07:37
- Wiped out and if that doesn't work they will successfully steal any and all elections they can -- nm - St. Epiphany Jun 24, 07:30 3
  - no one wants to mention it, but when the GOP takes the house they can successfully prevent a Dem president from taking office in 2024. -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 07:32 2
    - Yes. I'm a 100% Jovianian right now on all fronts - St. Epiphany Jun 24, 07:34 1
      - ohhh I like that - Jovian Jun 24, 07:39
We can only hope. -- nm - sycor Jun 24, 07:25 1
- And send thoughts and prayers -- nm - JaxSean Jun 24, 07:29
I think you might be right. -- nm - loosilu Jun 24, 07:24

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