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whoa! -- (link)

Posted by mud Aug 30 '22, 09:38

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https://twitter.com/ishaantharoor/status/1564638338065260550 (twitter.com)

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Currently we are afraid to vote for 3rd parties because that always gives advantage to the wrong other party ie Nader Gore Bush... - zeitgeist Aug 30, 10:34
This makes no sense. For president EC is mostly statewide so redistricting and ranked choice makes no difference. The House isn't winner take all. -- nm - Dano Aug 30, 10:05 6
- His argument is that ranked choice voting would eliminate primaries and give more power for parties to elect candidates - Roger More Aug 30, 10:18 1
  - Feels like it would be the opposite, to me. -- nm - Reagen Aug 30, 10:24
- ranked choice could make a difference with third party voters, although only in states where no one gets 50% to start. -- nm - Reagen Aug 30, 10:07 1
  - True. AZ, GA, NC, WI would have gone to ranked choice in 2020 (more likely to help Trump). Voters would be more likely to vote 3rd party with ranked - Dano Aug 30, 10:17
- Ah. I see. It's just nonsense fear mongering by a Republican operative. -- nm - Dano Aug 30, 10:07 1
  - yeah sorry, I just liked Ishaan Tharoor (WaPo)'s post. I also have a map obsession .. and I had an urge to say "whoa!" this morning. -- nm - mud Aug 30, 10:10
ohhhh it looks like a new Louisiana Purchase -- nm - Jovian Aug 30, 09:56 1
- heh -- nm - mud Aug 30, 09:59
Any scenario for Idaho going blue is ... out there. -- nm - Reagen Aug 30, 09:55 3
- I'd think that for TN, but all the bigger cities are blue, so probably is right. -- nm - Dark Callisto Aug 30, 10:00 1
  - also, NC and FL still red somehow in this scenario. -- nm - Reagen Aug 30, 10:05
- indeed. -- nm - mud Aug 30, 09:56
I fail to see how ranked choice and independent redistricting would affect a two-party presidential vote... This smells like BS. -- nm - Ender Aug 30, 09:45 4
- I haven't looked at the thread, but I want an explanation too. Would it impact the House makeup? Almost certainly. But how does it change POTUS elex? -- nm* - ty97 Aug 30, 09:47 3
  - the map post is from a Tyler Bowyer (RNC), so it's likely bullshit. -- nm - mud Aug 30, 09:56 2
    - ahh, it's RNC fearmongering, got it -- nm - ty97 Aug 30, 09:56 1
      - Sorta hilarious that they left Alaska red when it's the state that's actually going to elect a Dem congressperson because of ranked choice. -- nm - Reagen Aug 30, 10:02
Based on registration or actual vote? By district or zip? I feel like gerrymandering alone doesn't explain that vs the House numbers. -- nm - Max Aug 30, 09:41
Do, Away. With. The. EC! (NM) - Marlowe Aug 30, 09:40 2
- This is how you get a civil war. Imagine the chaos of a close presidential vote. Florida 2000 x 50. -- nm - Ender Aug 30, 09:47 1
  - Except that if the popular vote is that close, you will get a handful of swing states even closer, so your civil war is happening anyway. (NM) - Marlowe Aug 30, 10:37

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