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Last week "we're eliminating gas power cars by 2035. This week "Flex Alert!! Don't power your EVs between 4:00 and 9:00PM" -- (link)

Posted by Meg (aka Mojave) Sep 2 '22, 14:41

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https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/1/23332639/california-heat-electric-vehicles-ban-gas-cars-gavin-newsom (www.deseret.com)

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If we're going to have to build out an infrastructure anyway, let's do hydrogen! -- nm - Ender Sep 2, 16:12 1
- unless Big Oil plans on buying out electric companies to avoid eventual extinction, they probably should (Shell & Chevron are taking baby steps) -- nm - hollywood big shot Sep 2, 16:29
It was a call to voluntarily reduce usage during those hours with EVs as an example of one way to defer/reduce usage. - TWuG Sep 2, 15:26 9
- California's grid, relatively speaking, works great. it's been hitting 100% renewable sourcing for peak daytime capacity lately. but you can't just - hollywood big shot Sep 2, 15:35 7
  - If 10s of millions of EVs are coming then the grid owners are negligent in not preparing for that eventuality. - TWuG Sep 2, 15:40 6
    - "we just sold you the things, suckers. we never claimed they wouldn't be a giant suck on an infrastructure not designed to accommodate their existence - hollywood big shot Sep 2, 15:44 5
      - The infrastructure can be changed. Should be changed. Must be changed. It cannot remain static - TWuG Sep 2, 15:56 4
        
        yes, massively upgrading its 50-state patchworked infrastructure is what America is famously great at - hollywood big shot Sep 2, 16:01 3
        
        You just described what has to happen for hydrogen to be viable and it has to start from zero AND rely on the electricity grid. -- nm - TWuG Sep 2, 16:22
        
        To me it's a bit like saying that broadband will never catch on because we'd have to lay too much fibre optic cable - Reagen Sep 2, 16:10 1
        
        Well, the US really lags on relative basis compared to the world on broadband installation. That's even allowing for one of the most - JD Sep 2, 16:19
- True - it was just the timing :) -- nm - Meg Sep 2, 15:30
BEVs don't really scale but nobody wants to admit it - hollywood big shot Sep 2, 14:43 5
- They scale just fine. The grid is inadequate and would be regardless of EV usage -- nm - TWuG Sep 2, 15:27 3
  - lol, okay - hollywood big shot Sep 2, 15:32 2
    - A 5 hour window applying to all high usage is not an indication of too many EVs but if a grid that is insufficient to meet -- (edited) - TWuG Sep 2, 15:36 1
      - Also, charging after midnight is not a hard ask. -- nm - Reagen Sep 2, 17:05
- and this is with BEVs only being around 2% of all California registered vehicles on the road - hollywood big shot Sep 2, 14:48

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