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In response to "Good. One of the big three should actually be balanced. -- nm" by Ender

Yeah, no

Posted by TWuG Sep 3 '22, 09:00

"It's one of the most pernicious aspects of our current political climate, that so many people are willing to treat tactics and tools as entirely equal in value without any thought as to who wields them, or to what end. It's a position that refuses to make moral calculations."

https://twitter.com/JuliusGoat/status/1523960700808445953?t=jVnWuKiA__z4cy9mcu-4cw&s=19 (twitter.com)

Responses:

Yup and I'll just leave this here -- (link) - Jovian Sep 3, 09:39
Treating every single person on the other side like a radical is exactly how you get everybody on the other side being a radical. -- nm - Ender Sep 3, 09:17 14
- Not really, no. -- (edited) - znufrii Sep 3, 10:07
- Is that why every left wing person is a flaming radical communist? -- nm - Reagen Sep 3, 09:31 12
  - Did I say that? -- nm - Ender Sep 3, 09:37 11
    - So does this only work in one direction then? -- nm - Reagen Sep 3, 09:45 10
      - Did I say that? You seem determined to catch me in some imagined hypocrisy... -- nm - Ender Sep 3, 09:51 9
        
        You're saying that treating a whole side as radicals turns that whole side into radicals. I present to you as rebuttal, the last 20+ years' treatment - Reagen Sep 3, 09:59 2
        
        Fwiw, I don't accuse you of hypocrisy. I think you are largely principled -- nm - Reagen Sep 3, 10:05 1
        
        Same here. It's important that we say these things, too. -- nm - David Sep 3, 10:06
        
        "A news network should be balanced and unbiased" shouldn't be a controversial opinion... -- nm - Ender Sep 3, 09:52 5
        
        The problem is that fair and unbiased does not jive with "balanced" any more. One party (with the exception of a few individuals that you can count - pmb Sep 3, 11:55
        
        Except that there is bias in treating sides as equivalent when the sides are not at all equivalent. - TWuG Sep 3, 10:06
        
        Balance and unbiased opinion, as with everything, is in the eye of the beholder. -- nm - Reagen Sep 3, 10:02 1
        
        I would very much like the GOP to be a partner in good faith in governance. But the entire party votes in lockstep - TWuG Sep 3, 10:12
        
        It's not. The debate lies in whether moving away from objective truths to cater to potential viewers is balanced and unbiased. - David Sep 3, 10:01
They should just change their name to FEFN - znufrii Sep 3, 09:04

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