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On New Year's Eve, I was getting a haircut in my brother's town in Connecticut. The conversation with the stylist went a now predictable way. -- (edited)

Posted by ty97 Jan 3 '23, 13:17

Stylist: "Oh you're visiting? Where are you from?"
Me: "I live in the city"
Stylist: "Oh, I hear things have gotten bad there"

I've had this conversation numerous times with numerous people over the past year. To the point that I'm beginning to think I'm crazy and there is a crime spree outside my window that I don't see.

There is definitely a widespread belief that NYC has fallen into disarray (more than normal at least, ha!) and crime is rampant.

I'm not annoyed at the stylist, but I'm wondering how to fix the message that's getting out about the city?

Anyway, at the end she expressed that she felt reassured that you could possibly make one of her trips to midtown that she likes to do. So there's that.

Responses:

My HS friend tried to convince me that NYC is far worse now then the late 70s and early 80s - Jovian Jan 3, 13:36 15
- Poor guy is gonna have to skip Santacon? -- nm - ty97 Jan 3, 13:44
- offs, I walked from Times Square to the Port Authority bus terminal at night in 1983. From what I see on TV, its nothing like it was. -- nm - crash davis Jan 3, 13:38 13
  - Thanks to the Equalizer! -- nm - Remlik Jan 3, 13:55 2
    - I thought it was usually credited to Rudy before he lost his g-d mind. -- nm - crash davis Jan 3, 13:58 1
      - Rudy was always a mixed bag, even before teh crazy. -- nm - loosilu Jan 3, 13:58
  - It's Disney now. -- nm - loosilu Jan 3, 13:54
  - although Times Square is hellish, just not in the way they're thinking. -- nm - Reagen Jan 3, 13:48
  - Hes out of his mind. -- nm - Jovian Jan 3, 13:43
  - The statistics back you up. - ty97 Jan 3, 13:41 6
    - There were drug dealers and porno shops everywhere and not one M&Ms store. -- nm - crash davis Jan 3, 13:44 5
      - *everywhere* its quite literally all their was. *That* was a Hellscape. - Jovian Jan 3, 13:45 3
        
        Midnight Cowboy was accurate. -- nm - loosilu Jan 3, 14:06
        
        I was from small town Idaho. I got separated from my family. I found two cops, both of whom looked 6'4" and had batons like axe handles. I followed - crash davis Jan 3, 13:51
        
        and as a troublemaker teenager with a car and only being 25 minutes away. Well...we didnt call it Hellscape then. -- nm* - Jovian Jan 3, 13:47
      - M&Ms are like a drug. -- nm - ty97 Jan 3, 13:45
This is how you spot the Fox News watchers. -- nm - loosilu Jan 3, 13:35 8
- In this case, I'm not sure it's that simple. Certainly Fox plays up that angle, no question. But they haven't been alone in this. -- (edited) - ty97 Jan 3, 13:43 6
  - Watch Fox sometime, you'll see. -- nm - loosilu Jan 3, 13:55 3
    - Right, I'm not saying Fox doesn't do that. I'm saying other news outlets were doing something similar. - ty97 Jan 3, 14:15 2
      - I mean, Newsmax and OAN. - loosilu Jan 3, 14:19 1
        
        But to what ty said, it's not even just those outlets now. First, there is local news (if it bleeds it leads), that has always had that bent (John - pmb Jan 3, 14:34
  - All liberal cities are crime burden Apocalypses right now, ty; NYC, Chicago, Seattle, etc. That's what they say. - nm - JaxSean Jan 3, 13:52 1
    - And all of California is hell, people are running for their lives to red states. -- nm - loosilu Jan 3, 13:55
- ^^ this -- nm - JaxSean Jan 3, 13:40
my sister gets this when she travels. like seattle is a war zone? -- nm - judge amanda jones Jan 3, 13:32 3
- I think some people legitimately believe Portland is gone. -- nm - ty97 Jan 3, 13:45 1
  - According to Fox News both of them were burned to the ground by BLM. -- nm - loosilu Jan 3, 13:57
- Fox news has been saying it for a few years now. -- nm - loosilu Jan 3, 13:35
One homeless tent and its ANARCHY gangs gotham city before batman -- nm - aud lang zeit Jan 3, 13:29
I should go work for the tourism bureau. New Slogan: "Hey, at least we're not LA" -- nm - ty97 Jan 3, 13:25 6
- SF would be even better. Fox News tells everyone it's covered in used needles and feces. -- nm - loosilu Jan 3, 13:36 5
  - I mean, that's been true for over a decade. I've seen it with my own eyes! - Beryllium Jan 3, 13:57
  - Reading some stuff about SF (in what I consider legitimate sources), it definitely sounds like they have their struggles right now. - ty97 Jan 3, 13:48 3
    - Oh sure, but not like it's made out to be. -- nm - loosilu Jan 3, 13:57
    - going to Sketchfest at the end of the month. will let you know (if it's still there) -- nm - hollywood big shot Jan 3, 13:53
    - yes for certain. there are some issues. -- nm - St. Epiphany Jan 3, 13:51
abolish local news channels, for starters -- nm - hollywood big shot Jan 3, 13:19 7
- its a maga thing. this is baked right into it. Every maga supporter I know believes that NYC is a hellhole now. -- nm - Jovian Jan 3, 13:37
- Yes, but it's also just a huge right wing talking point and a huge problem with apps like Nextdoor. Everything is in your face all the time. - pmb Jan 3, 13:29
- or abolish our Mayor -- nm - ty97 Jan 3, 13:19 4
  - NY progressives probably should stop splitting their votes -- nm - hollywood big shot Jan 3, 13:21 3
    - There are a lot of non-progressive Dems in NYC as well. - ty97 Jan 3, 13:23 2
      - either Wiley or Garcia would have been a perfectly fine mayor and had one of them done the right thing nobody would know who Eric Adams is -- nm - hollywood big shot Jan 3, 13:26 1
        
        Garcia was not a progressive (but I agree she would have been a pretty good mayor) - ty97 Jan 3, 13:27

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On New Year's Eve, I was getting a haircut in my brother's town in Connecticut. The conversation with the stylist went a now predictable way. -- (edited)

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