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nwbr: I'm not saying "If you aren't a supporter, you're a bigot!". if it comes off that way I apologise. it's probably d/t the fact I'm pissed off....

Posted by dogbert183 Nov 4 '08, 22:24

I still say the marriage definition thing is a cop-out because of how common divorce is now.

I know it was a joke, but someone posted if gays could get married then the lines would be longer at courthouse, or it would be harder to get a quick divorce. although these are jokes, if they were serious answers I could at least say "ok, it effects you negativly in that way. I don't agree but I at least know why you made your choice"

in this situation I don't see any adverse effect of gay people getting married that makes some so against the thought of it.

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aside from the bigots, of which there are far too many, the adverse effect i've heard/read the most is - citizen b. Nov 4, 22:31
Here's where I fell during the debate up here. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 22:30 23
- Then vote against multi-partner marriage when it comes up. - ty97 Nov 4, 22:32 22
  - What would be the legal argument preventing a further broading of the term if the first broadening is acceptable? (Plus... - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 22:35 10
    - Vote on the issue at hand, don't color it with a possible future issue. - ty97 Nov 4, 22:39 7
      - Choices have consequences ty. It's the "think of the now and who cares about the future ramifications" that guided the Bush presidency. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 22:43 6
        
        Certainly they do, and you could dig 5 layers down into possible consequences. - ty97 Nov 4, 22:53 3
        
        Why is it so hard to say, "We want the word too?" - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 22:57 2
        
        We want fairness. Not a word. - musubi Nov 4, 23:00 1
        
        He can. -- nm - Dr.Vermin, pundit Nov 4, 23:05
        
        PS: Why do we call the genders different words if we're all equal anyhow? - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 22:47 1
        
        good grief. -- nm - citizen b. Nov 4, 22:48
    - What's the legal argument for different gender polygamy? - musubi Nov 4, 22:38 1
      - Well, previously, it would have been that it didn't fit the Canadian definition of marriage, that being two people of opposite gender. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 22:41
  - That's like not having a car because it increases the chance of carjacking. (nm) - musubi Nov 4, 22:34 10
    - Ethicist - and certainly no religious righty nut - Margaret Somerville argues that children have the right to a mixed gender upbringing. -- (link) - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 22:37 9
      - I've read it before, and to put it nicely, I think she's full of it. (nm) - musubi Nov 4, 22:42 8
        
        thank you. that link didn't work for me, but i was wondering if that was one of those pieces. - citizen b. Nov 4, 22:46
        
        And as a supporter of SSM, that's perfectly your right, but it doesn't cancel out the argument as unworthy of discussion. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 22:44 6
        
        It does because it's used as smokescreen for bigotry. - musubi Nov 4, 22:48 5
        
        And this exact attitude is why 8 passes tonight. Instead of arguing the policy, you argue a person's right to disagree with you. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 22:50 4
        
        I've pointed out the logical flaws with the Sommervilles P.O.V., you're the one who brought up silly "right to disagree" arguements. - musubi Nov 4, 22:58 3
        
        No. Because she has a rebuttal for the "married couples without kids" argument. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 23:05
        
        It's the arrogance and intellectual laziness of dismissing all varying opinions as 'bigotry' that prevents you from appealing to your opponents. - Dr.Vermin, pundit Nov 4, 23:03 1
        
        I'm still waiting for a logical reasoning that doesn't use illogical exteremes like protecting procreation, polygamy or marrying animals. - musubi Nov 4, 23:07
I posted the divorce lines being longer as a joke. -- nm - Redmond Nov 4, 22:26 1
- I know -- nm - dogbert183 Nov 4, 22:27
I want to know what this legitimate reason to be against gay marriage. - musubi Nov 4, 22:26 2
- i just want to make sure there is no conceivable way you could be my wife - pigby Nov 4, 22:28 1
  - There is no concievable way, you're the biyatch in this relationship. - musubi Nov 4, 22:30

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