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Predict: What ~year will we see gas pumps become financially unsupportable, while ICE drivers complain about lack of stations? -- nm

Posted by Max Apr 11 '23, 14:49

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Locally 3 new gas stations have been built ( that I know of) including one large 12+ pumper -- nm - zeitgeist Apr 11, 17:40
...2045? Fleet turnover is roughly 15-20 years? -- nm - Strongbad Apr 11, 17:18
In the year 2525. - zunkskunk Apr 11, 17:12
not in my lifetime. -- nm - mafic Apr 11, 16:16
Now I’m wondering what the breakeven point actually is on a basic automated gas pump station… -- (edited) - znufrii Apr 11, 15:17 2
- Every single gas station is a contamination site - they should have to pay the remediation costs upfront for any new ones. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 15:31 1
  - generally they pay annual fees to some kind of fund, or have a bond, or there's a specific gas tax for it. -- nm - mafic Apr 11, 16:20
In the Fallout timeline the answer is 2052 when America suffers an energy crisis. - Qale Apr 11, 15:05
Probably by 2040 that'll be widespread but not geographically even. -- nm - TWuG Apr 11, 15:04
2300. Airplanes, Ships use much that same gas -- nm* - budice Apr 11, 14:58 18
- Jets use Jet A or A-1, which can be used in place of diesel but shortens the lifespan of diesel engines. Piston planes use avgas, which is leaded. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 15:11 15
  - avgas is also usually very high octane. we couldn't leave it in accessible fuel dumps or it'd disappear into people's snowmobiles over the winter. -- nm - mafic Apr 11, 16:24
  - (Which means, yes, much of the infrastructure will have to stay - but not all of it. A large percentage will be able to stand down.) -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 15:12 13
    - how in the world would you know this? -- nm - Pippy the Gifted Apr 11, 15:21 12
      - for me it's because a weirdly large part of mineral exploration is fuel logistics. -- nm - mafic Apr 11, 16:21
      - This is a good question, because in fact, I don't know. Not at all. But Wikipedia does, sort of. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 15:24 10
        
        hee! -- nm - Pippy the Gifted Apr 11, 15:25 9
        
        Until I looked it up, I thought they used hydrazine - but that's rocket fuel. Kerosene was the word I was actually looking for. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 15:28 8
        
        You'd definitely want to clear the airspace of a hydrazine powered plane. -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 15:31 7
        
        Hydrazine is bad news -- nm - JD Apr 11, 16:02
        
        "I wanna go FAST!" -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 15:35 5
        
        LaGuardia International Impact Crater -- nm - Reagen Apr 11, 15:42 4
        
        Hey, it would be an improvement at least -- nm - Literally anyone that’s flown through LGA Apr 11, 15:52 1
        
        But what about the airport sushi?? -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 15:58
        
        Don't Go Chasing Manhole Covers -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 15:49 1
        
        (This is a Pascal-B joke.) -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 16:02
- I thought they largely used bunker fuel, with only a bit of regular diesel for starting the main fuel pumps/heaters? -- nm - Beryllium Apr 11, 15:05 1
  - And commercial airlines use Jet A or Jet A1 - JD Apr 11, 15:13
In America? - Reluctant Cynic Apr 11, 14:55 2
- by the 22nd century -- nm - Jovian Apr 11, 15:01
- like the pandemic i think it will vary highly from state to state, but generally exponential adoption faster than either Detroit or Big Oil are ready - hollywood big shot Apr 11, 14:57
if Cali stays to banning new ICE sales by 2035, it probably still takes another 10-20 years to work all the legacy cars off the road here. TX or FL? - hollywood big shot Apr 11, 14:54
2063 -- nm - JD Apr 11, 14:52

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