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This is spot on -- (link)

Posted by Jovian (aka Jovian) Apr 20 '23, 09:48

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https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1649072502885212160?s=20 (twitter.com)

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IF CBS News reported that an erroneous tweet was "direct evidence that mainstream media outlets believe their job is to promote the rich" - would we call that accurate? Apr 20, 10:11
What would accurate look like? Because this outcome was well within the range of outcomes SpaceX expected. Their - TWuG Apr 20, 09:52 19
- Success in Failure: Space X Gleans Key Data After Rocket Explosion -- nm* - Qale Apr 20, 10:00
- But do you think the lay reader understands that nuance? - znufrii Apr 20, 09:56 4
  - If reporters are doing their job, yes. Also, the headline isn't meant to be the full story. - TWuG Apr 20, 10:05 2
    - Reporters don’t write the headlines, and it’s precisely the headline I’m faulting here, because that’s all most people will see. - znufrii Apr 20, 10:09 1
      - Nah, it's maybe clickbait: "A success, but it exploded?" The failure is with people who think that and then fail to read the article. - TWuG Apr 20, 10:13
  - You will not question its success!!!!! -- nm - Jovian Apr 20, 09:57
- The tweet should have been: "Starship explodes, but Musk and SpaceX happy because astronauts are expendable" -- nm - decline Apr 20, 09:55 7
  - What I'll say here is that the microreactions of the people in that room were looks of abject failure. - David Apr 20, 10:07 6
    - Sure, I'd be bummed too if it had gone that far past initial expectations and then fell apart. - TWuG Apr 20, 10:16 4
      - No. These people looked defeated. -- nm - David Apr 20, 10:18 3
        
        Spend a year or more on a project. Dot your i's and cross your t's on something no one anywhere has ever done before. Set a goal - TWuG Apr 20, 10:24 2
        
        Also is there reporting that the SpaceX middle management is the cavalier Enron of engineering companies? - Max Apr 20, 10:27 1
        
        Pretty much the IM. - TWuG Apr 20, 10:35
    - Completely understandable for that to be the case given how much work has gone in to even getting to program to this place. - znufrii Apr 20, 10:11
- Or have gotten so complacent with rocketry they expect it to work first time, every time. -- nm - spamlet Apr 20, 09:55 2
  - How many disassemblies did SpaceX encounter before landing a booster? It felt like dozens. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 20, 09:55 1
    - It was a fair number. And now Falcon 9 launches about every 4 days, with nearly 200 booster recoveries. - TWuG Apr 20, 09:59
- Personally, I think anything that doesnt literally have them sucking Elon's dick might be a good first step. -- nm - Jovian Apr 20, 09:54 1
  - "literally"! -- nm - mud Apr 20, 09:56
Well, it's not wrong - CBS just doesn't mention that little hiccup that happened **after* the successful launch -- nm - decline Apr 20, 09:51 8
- I dont see how something blowing up a minute or two after launch is considered a successful launch. -- nm - Jovian Apr 20, 09:55 6
  - Because it was a test of a rocket that had never flown before. Success wasn't defined as 100% achievement of all - TWuG Apr 20, 10:03
  - The goal was to get off the pad. It did that, so therefore success. - spamlet Apr 20, 10:01 2
    - This was never intended to be an orbital flight in any case. -- nm - znufrii Apr 20, 10:02 1
      - Well, most of an orbit. -- nm - spamlet Apr 20, 10:04
  - Because the technical standard for success of this launch was to clear the tower. Everything else was extra gravy. -- (edited) - znufrii Apr 20, 10:01
  - Same. Although, I think the answer is included in your phrasing. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 20, 09:56
- Right, it got off the pad just fine. -- nm - Meg Apr 20, 09:53

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