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In response to "Well, that is what I alluded to. I'm expecting to look up in the sky and see brilliance. If I can only "see" them when photographing them I suspect " by oblique

that does happen if they are very faint to the eye. but certainly isn't always the case. The FB group i see them in people are very clear whether they looked vibrant IRL or just on their camera. -- nm*

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