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"As with other dangerous trends in car design (see the steering yoke), this one can be traced back to Tesla" -- (link)

Posted by hollywood big shot (aka pickmix) Apr 26 '23, 10:58

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https://slate.com/business/2023/04/cars-buttons-touchscreens-vw-porsche-nissan-hyundai.html (slate.com)

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I was inside a Tesla recently for the first time, and I really hated some of their design decisions. (NM) - Marlowe Apr 26, 11:45 3
- You do you, but just sitting in the car isn't the same as driving one. - TWuG Apr 26, 12:19 1
  - That is true. - Marlowe Apr 26, 12:28
- Not as bad as the Bolt, but, yeah. -- nm - Spawn Apr 26, 11:46
What drivers hate is poorly implemented UIs on touchscreens. - TWuG Apr 26, 11:28 6
- or people just like buttons -- nm - hollywood big shot Apr 26, 11:44
- and laaaaaag -- nm - Beryllium Apr 26, 11:28 4
  - Yep. I've never noticed lag except on choosing streaming music. - TWuG Apr 26, 11:32 3
    - Yes - I hear that Rivian's software is pretty decent as well. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 26, 11:32 2
      - I read last night that GM and someone are eschewing car play for native systems for which they will eventually charge a monthly fee. what crap - judge indianapolis jones Apr 26, 11:53 1
        
        -- sorry, I got here from "rivian doesn't use apple play at all." -- nm - judge indianapolis jones Apr 26, 11:54
Ford is removing the dial from their giant tablets in newer models, which is contrary to what consumers want. -- nm - Mop🧹 Apr 26, 11:04 13
- hard control/knobs are key to safe driving. that was a huge criticism of the tesla semis - all touch panel, no way to make adjustments blind. -- nm - colin Apr 26, 11:08 12
  - This is incorrect. The scroll wheels on the steering wheel have multiple functions. Also, voice commands. - TWuG Apr 26, 11:23 4
    - in a car, sure, in a semi, not the same. -- nm - colin Apr 26, 11:29 3
      - Why not? -- nm - TWuG Apr 26, 11:33 2
        
        semis have air systems, extra lights, and in-cab systems. - colin Apr 26, 11:41 1
        
        All of which can be controlled by voice or by tasking it to a scroll wheel - TWuG Apr 26, 12:10
  - my info panel is touchscreen only but all the necessary controls are also on the steering wheel so it's rarely an issue for me -- nm - hollywood big shot Apr 26, 11:13 3
    - is your heat/AC/butt heater on the wheel? I hate three clicks to turn on my butt heater. just give me a switch. - judge indianapolis jones Apr 26, 11:17 2
      - “This one goes to 11” -- nm - znufrii 🦄 Apr 26, 11:26
      - 3-heat butts. it's a button down with the other AC stuff below the screen on the console pillar. but i only had to just use it for the first time on rainy days -- (edited) - hollywood big shot Apr 26, 11:20
  - I haaaaate the "volume slider."yes I could say "ok, ID turn the volume up" but it makes me feel like a giant douchebag and the voice of ok ID is so - judge indianapolis jones Apr 26, 11:12 1
    - thank you for not talking -- nm - ID Newton Apr 26, 11:13
  - It's probably pretty hard to drive blind too -- nm - decline Apr 26, 11:11

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