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Large electric SUVs may actually be worse for the environment than compact ICE vehicles. -- (link)
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znufrii 🦄 (aka znufrii)
May 4 '23, 17:45
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/04/electric-vehicles-suvs-us-vehicle-fleet
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Can we agree large vehicles, unless they are used for large numbers of people, are generally bad for the environment? -- nm
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loosilu
May 4, 18:18
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Most drivers can get 90% of their driving done in a car with 200 miles of range and 2 doors. But they buy for the 10% of the driving where that
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TWuG
May 4, 18:46
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I'm gonna need a truck a whole bunch this summer - but it's objectively cheaper to rent it for the few times I will need it
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Reagen
May 4, 18:54
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I'm lucky to have free access to a trailer to carry my heavy stuff
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Guigue
May 4, 19:10
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a lot of it also depends on where you get your electricity. like Germany shutting down its nuclear plants now means that if you're charging almost any
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mafic
May 4, 18:10
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even if it was 100% coal generated, there's still the 20% vs 85-95% efficiency gap.
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Reagen
May 4, 18:19
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I'm just talking CO2 emissions from driving. once your emissions/kwh for generation goes over about 500 you start hitting the break even point.
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mafic
May 4, 18:49
Battery tech and magnets for motors are moving away from rare earths and cheaper/smaller EVs are coming
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TWuG
May 4, 18:01
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it's not just that it's needlessly wasteful while solid state remains years away at the consumer level, it's also not what EV adopters actually buy
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hollywood big shot
May 4, 18:10
Sign us up! -- nm
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Detroit
May 4, 17:50
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