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In response to "But I don't see why that = "no more private insurance" -- nm" by Roger More

did you read the article i linked? according to the bill, you'll be required to go into gov't health care within 5 years.. sooner if you pay for your

Posted by colinski (aka colinski) Jul 21 '09, 06:35

own insurance.

and god help you if you file your taxes while uninsured...

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It says the giovernment will select healthcare plans that meet its standards - they could be public or private -- nm - Roger More Jul 21, 06:39
"qualified health insurance plan" /= "government health care" - znufrii Jul 21, 06:36 24
- yeah... it means the private option must match the gov't option.. - colinski Jul 21, 06:41 17
  - That's not saying what you think it says. - znufrii Jul 21, 06:45 15
    - Regardless, the existence of a floor for quality of coverage doesn't bother me. It's the implication of a ceiling that shocks the hell out of me. -- nm - TFox Jul 21, 06:52 13
      - (or, to clarify, I suspect the intention of the wording in the bill was to prevent companies from circumventing minimum standards...) - TFox Jul 21, 06:57
      - What language are you seeing that implies that? Because that wouldn't make any sense to me, either. -- nm - znufrii Jul 21, 06:53 11
        
        I included it below in this post: -- (link) - TFox Jul 21, 06:58 [Backboard] 5
        
        Thought that was what you were referring to... - znufrii Jul 21, 06:59 4
        
        Like I said, that was why I wanted to see the Senate version of the bill, to confirm. - TFox Jul 21, 07:00 3
        
        I'd like to verify her conclusions, though. - znufrii Jul 21, 07:03 2
        
        I know, I said this from the start. -- nm - TFox Jul 21, 07:09 1
        
        Looks like the title is "The Affordable Health Choices Act" - Roger More Jul 21, 07:10
        
        see below about the Health Exchange.. - colinski Jul 21, 06:55 4
        
        Yeah, I haven't read enough of the bill to have any idea how that mechanism is going to work. -- nm - znufrii Jul 21, 06:58 3
        
        it's like a stock market for health care! if the demand for mammograms is up, you'll be paying more.. -- nm - colinski Jul 21, 07:00 2
        
        Somehow I doubt this is the case. :) -- nm - znufrii Jul 21, 07:01 1
        
        yeah, but wouldn't it be more fun? "Colonoscopys are down today! I gotta get to the doctor!" -- nm - colinski Jul 21, 07:02
    - hmm. i'm gonna keep reading, see if i can get more clarification... - colinski Jul 21, 06:48
  - To your last line, that is exactly what would concern me too. I hadn't seen that provision before in the summaries I've been sent. -- nm - TFox Jul 21, 06:42
- and if I'm reading correctly, Year 1 for that standard is 2013, and it'll be grandfathered for five years after that. -- nm - znufrii Jul 21, 06:39 5
  - That said, this one phrase in colin's link is very troublesome, and I want to see the part she is referencing: - TFox Jul 21, 06:42 4
    - well, reducing consumption is really the only way to cut cost.. - colinski Jul 21, 06:46 2
      - Yep, we're mostly in agreement, and the car insurance comparison is an excellent, perfect example. - TFox Jul 21, 06:50 1
        
        i think it's the difference between making it a requirement and making it a right.. - colinski Jul 21, 06:55
    - I wish the author had cited sections instead of pages, would make it easier to find. -- nm - znufrii Jul 21, 06:46

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