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In response to "umm, this is old data, but a google search turns up this." by tRuMaN

Okay, but versus income level. The rich have a higher tax bracket, but they also have a great deal more tax havens and deductions. -- nm

Posted by nubby, Astronauts champion (aka nubby) Jul 21 '09, 07:28

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also, here, try this. -- (link) - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:30 7
- and this -- (link) - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:31 6 1
  - nubby, I think the above link is what you want, but you will have to combine two different tables to get - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:34 4
    - So it looks to me that the people who are "hurt" the most by federal income tax is those making $70k-$100k a year. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:38 3
      - yeah, that is the worst level for federal. but my question is, are those numbers for families with kids or singles? - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:39 2
        
        households, it looks like -- nm - znufrii Jul 21, 07:41 1
        
        hmm, k. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:41
  - That's it, thanks. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:34
at what level do you start getting access to those? - colinski Jul 21, 07:29 20
- Exactly. Maybe the "rich" have an *effective* tax rate of 20%. - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:31 19
  - i still don't think the rich should foot the bill for gov't programs.. -- nm - colinski Jul 21, 07:34 18
    - why not, they've arguably benefitted the most. -- nm - znufrii Jul 21, 07:42 1
      - to bring logic into a tax discussion. - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:43
    - until obama passes the health care bill, you are free to think what you want. but after that, its against the law. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:37 2
      - it will be against the law for me to think the rich shouldn't pay for gov't programs? - colinski Jul 21, 07:39 1
        
        well, that damm healthcare bill is omnipotent. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:40
    - Okay, then you get to. :) -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:36 12
      - fine with me.. spread it out. - colinski Jul 21, 07:37 11
        
        And this is, I think, a fundamental political difference of people. - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:39 1
        
        pretty much -- nm - Don Homer Jul 21, 07:48
        
        there was a study done once (I cannot remember where) that asked people if a progressive tax system was fair - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:38 3
        
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        why nope? -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:40 1
        
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        they should have planned to not get sick. - colinski Jul 21, 07:40 3
        
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        So, they should have had health insurance? :) -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:41 1
        
        sure, but not a forced governmental plan that requries them to have 3 kids, one which is gay. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:42
yes/no. the federal system is professive, so one could do that easily, but most states are regressive - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:29 1
- So, back to my original question then. I'd like to see the numbers. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:30

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