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new month new warcrime -- (link)

Posted by mud May 31 '23, 19:58

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When did bombing the enemy capitol become a war crime? -- nm - Ender May 31, 20:03 24
- 1977, most recently, probably? -- (link*) - znufrii May 31, 20:21 1
  - Thank you -- nm - Ender May 31, 21:18
- "the enemy" is doing a lot of work there -- nm - hollywood big shot May 31, 20:09 19
  - Is it? In what definition is Ukraine not Russia's enemy? Germany bombed London. The Allies bombed Berlin. -- nm - Ender May 31, 20:16 18
    - What would you say Ukraine was doing that justified Russia initiating war and killing civilians? -- nm - Max May 31, 20:45 10
      - Since when is that the definition of "enemy"? -- nm - Ender May 31, 21:03 9
        
        What would you say Ukraine was doing that justified Russia initiating war and killing civilians? -- nm - Max May 31, 21:12 8
        
        Again... That has nothing to do with the definition of "enemy" Was the US not Japan's enemy in 1945? -- nm - Ender May 31, 21:20 7
        
        What would you say Ukraine was doing that justified Russia initiating war and killing civilians? -- nm - Max May 31, 21:30 6
        
        Repeating the same stupid question doesn't make you smart. -- nm - Ender May 31, 21:47 5
        
        Dodging it doesn't make you someone to look up to. -- nm - Max May 31, 21:54 4
        
        It's called a non sequitur, dude. I don't owe you a response to straw men. -- nm - Ender May 31, 22:00 3
        
        It's the fundamental question to your question - how does one get to just declare an enemy and kill their civilians without justification? - Max May 31, 22:07 2
        
        I'm perfectly willing to admit that under the 1977 revisions to the Geneva Convention it's a war crime. -- (edited) - Ender May 31, 22:21 1
        
        Maybe I've misread, but it looked like your comparison to London/Berlin wasn't just a question about a date of rule changes. - Max May 31, 22:46
    - Ukraine is Russia's victim. -- nm* - Beryllium May 31, 20:26
    - the (unprovoked) invasion itself was in violation of int'l law from day one. never mind stealing Crimea eight years ago -- (link) - hollywood big shot May 31, 20:22 1
      - no but russia really doesn't like them see? -- nm - mafic May 31, 20:25
    - this ain't WWII. indiscriminate attacks were added in the '70s. -- nm - mafic May 31, 20:18
    - Are those not war crimes too? -- nm - Roger More May 31, 20:18 2
      - and even if they technically weren't then, they are now. -- nm - mafic May 31, 20:19 1
        
        And even if they weren’t technically at the time, I’m sure that the Blitz and the V2 campaigns were seen as criminal and not seen as “bad stuff - Roger More May 31, 20:45
- intentionally targeting civilians and/or hospitals is. -- nm - mafic May 31, 20:05 1
  - or it's an indiscriminate attack. take your pick really. -- nm - mafic May 31, 20:06

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