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LIR for Jovian. Pence didn't trust Trump's SS agents. -- nm

Posted by loosilu (aka loosilu2) Jun 13 '23, 15:07

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? -- nm - Will Hunting 🍔🍟🍔🍹🍷 Jun 13, 15:10 25
- On Jan 6, Pence was ushered out of the capitol and told by Secret Service agents to get in a car. - loosilu Jun 13, 15:12 24
  - who would gavel the senate if the VP is not available? would that have made the plan work to throw the election to the house? -- nm - zeitgeist Jun 13, 15:15 1
    - Have to admit I don't know when it occurred in the timeline. -- nm* - loosilu Jun 13, 15:16
  - Yes. The why isn’t what you are implying. The SS mission is principal protection. Pence gets in the car, - Will Hunting 🍔🍟🍔🍹🍷 Jun 13, 15:15 21
    - Oh I don't buy that. One of those agents was almost certainly in the bag for Trump -- nm - Jovian Jun 13, 15:42 7
      - Tony Ornato for one (who lied to reporters after Cassidy Hutchinson spilled the beans about Trump wanting to choke out his own driver) -- (link*) - hollywood big shot Jun 13, 15:44 6
        
        "Ornato, who oversaw Secret Service movements, told him that Pence’s detail was planning to move the vice president to Joint Base Andrews." - hollywood big shot Jun 13, 15:45 5
        
        The SS job is to protect the principal. And yes, they will get that person as far the fuck away from a threat as they can. -- nm - Will Hunting 🍔🍟🍔🍹🍷 Jun 13, 16:06 3
        
        You're trusting them too much. They are federal LEOs. That sector attracts white supremacists. -- nm - loosilu Jun 13, 16:25
        
        they lied about Biden's dog biting them. they're not neutral observers -- nm - hollywood big shot Jun 13, 16:10 1
        
        WhaaaAt? That was a lie? -- nm - zeitgeist Jun 13, 17:52
        
        whoa -- nm - mud Jun 13, 15:47
    - Pence's comments make it sound like they were more interested in keeping him from certifying than in keeping him safe. - TWuG Jun 13, 15:29 2
      - Keep in mind Pence's family was with him. -- nm - loosilu Jun 13, 15:47
      - imo, Pence’s view is necessarily colored by his awareness of his role that day. -- nm* - znufrii 🦄 Jun 13, 15:37
    - they weren't really offering in the moment. they were ordering him at Trump's behest -- nm - hollywood big shot Jun 13, 15:20
    - are you saying that every one of them had only honorable intentions? that not one had some .. - mud Jun 13, 15:20 7
      - I’m saying their job is to protect him. His job was to protect the Constitution. He gets in a car, their job is easy. - Will Hunting 🍔🍟🍔🍹🍷 Jun 13, 15:40 2
        
        It is KNOWN that SS agents become attached to the person they protect. SS agents from one admin are assigned to their - loosilu Jun 13, 15:54
        
        see below -- nm - mud Jun 13, 15:46
      - Occam’s Razor -- (edited) - znufrii 🦄 Jun 13, 15:34 2
        
        Occam's razor says SS agents are loyal to the person they are assigned to protect. -- nm - loosilu Jun 13, 15:50
        
        to a man? Am I being too cynical, or are you being too naive? - mud Jun 13, 15:40
      - That's what I'm saying. -- nm - loosilu Jun 13, 15:29
    - hmmm, maybe I misunderstood. -- nm - loosilu Jun 13, 15:16

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