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In response to "womp womp -- (link)" by hollywood big shot

July 1st 2015: 19% Bush, 12% Trump, ..., 3% Christie -- (link)

Posted by Max Jun 27 '23, 11:51

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https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politics/donald-trump-poll-hillary-clinton-jeb-bush/index.html (www.cnn.com)

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everyone cites this poll even though Trump only announced on June 16th of 2015. once the first debate happened it was over -- nm - hollywood big shot Jun 27, 11:55 3
- also Trump at 47% is light-years ahead of where Jeb! was as his baseline -- nm - hollywood big shot Jun 27, 11:59 2
  - I link it because it's data from the same time frame. The landscape is different, but it's also an example of not setting in stone any leads. - Max Jun 27, 12:09 1
    - like IDGAF if Meatball Ron flames out (and hope that he does spectacularly) but from pure game theory it's a dumb way to light your donor's $$ on fire -- nm - hollywood big shot Jun 27, 12:17
It amazes me they’re doing the exact same mistake as last time. No one is playing offense against the man. - Will Hunting 🍔🍟🍔🍹🍷 Jun 27, 11:52 16
- His 50+% of Republican support isn't going to vote for you if you attack. The strategy is to be there if something does wind up disqualifying him. -- nm - Dano Jun 27, 12:07 5
  - His statement about shooting someone on 5th Avenue and not losing support is even more true now than it was when he said it. - Dano Jun 27, 12:11 4
    - nobody's ever really tested the alternative strategy yet though so who knows what would actually happen if they did -- nm - hollywood big shot Jun 27, 12:15 2
      - I think some have tried, and immediately gotten their head kicked in. - Roger More Jun 27, 12:26 1
        
        nah they always framed it as “Donald’s not the REAL conservative” instead of “Don’s a racist, rapey crook who has no business in public office” -- nm - hollywood big shot Jun 27, 12:30
    - yep -- nm - mud Jun 27, 12:13
- case in point -- (link) - Jovian Jun 27, 12:06 1
  - Apparently the option is White House or prison…only 2 options. - Will Hunting 🍔🍟🍔🍹🍷 Jun 27, 12:27
- the same reason Putin couldn't just whack Prigozhin on the Rostov Road. he still needs his troops - hollywood big shot Jun 27, 11:57 7
  - Yeah, he is not the same animal as he was. - Spawn Jun 27, 11:59 6
    - as much shit as his 2016 opponents had but chose not to use against him, these clowns now have exponentially more ammo - hollywood big shot Jun 27, 12:02 5
      - More ammo, but as you said, take a lot more damage firing those shots. -- nm - Spawn Jun 27, 12:03 4
        
        if 55%-60% of your party wants someone other than the guy with 45%, better off chasing the change demo than the dead enders (Obama's 2008 strategy) -- nm - hollywood big shot Jun 27, 12:05 3
        
        I question the 55%-60%. I would like to believe it, but don't. -- nm - Spawn Jun 27, 12:08 2
        
        even if it's 50%/50%, take your shots. literally what do you have to lose other than dropping out earlier than you might have otherwise. - hollywood big shot Jun 27, 12:10 1
        
        Yep, 2016 prove rope-a-dope didn’t work… hit him - Will Hunting 🍔🍟🍔🍹🍷 Jun 27, 12:29

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