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Lots of speculative theorizing about TFG's trials and election impact. Opinions appreciated

Posted by Fuzzy (aka mrfuzzy) Aug 3 '23, 12:16

A few caveats up front -- I have very little hope that he'll ever see the inside of a prison. I know that we all have raging justice boners and want to see him dragged from a courtroom in chains, but I am too jaded to see that becoming a reality. I think it is far more likely that one of his true believers intentionally causes a hung jury in each trial.

Nonetheless, some small, vestigial, stubbornly optimistic part of me can't help but ponder the possibility that he is convicted. For the sake of argument, let's say it is one of the federal charges. Happy day!!

Well, happy for about half of the country. How will the MAGAts respond? Will they riot? Will this be their rallying cry that motivates them to get out and vote so that Dear Leader can pardon himself?

The last several election cycles have come down to who can get their voters to the polls. In 2016, Trump motivated the deplorables while Hillary motivate basically no one. In 2020, Biden motivated the anti-Trump voters to pull off an impressive win. 2024 was looking like the abortion rights election, which should favor a Biden re-election. I hope that the possibility of a Trump conviction doesn't end up swinging that momentum toward him. In any sensible world, his campaign would be dead in the water, but we no longer live in that world.

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I’m not optimistic about the primaries, but by the time of the convention, I think even Fox News will be clamoring for somebody else on the ticket. -- nm - mara Aug 3, 13:04
If any of these charges get to trial prior to the election (I would estimate a 75% chance that at least one of these does), I think he will be -- (edited) - pmb Aug 3, 13:00 3
- Take away his phone for a start. -- nm - Meg Aug 3, 13:11
- House arrest or a warden's residence on a prison or officers house on a military base (godfather 2) -- nm - zeitgeist Aug 3, 13:04 1
  - or like that one season of 24 -- nm - Jovian Aug 3, 13:06
He will be convicted. He will go to jail. He will not win election to POTUS or any other position. - TWuG Aug 3, 12:45 9
- YEAH!!! -- nm - David Aug 3, 12:49
- Honestly I agree with almost all these points except one - Jovian Aug 3, 12:48 1
  - The only thing that keeps him from ending up behind bars is death. I'm okay with him dying by natural causes any time now. - TWuG Aug 3, 12:51
- Can you tell me where the positivity store you got your ideas from is? - sycor Aug 3, 12:47 5
  - A desire to go through life expecting good things, working to make them happen and not giving up if they don't. - TWuG Aug 3, 12:49 4
    - That's awesome. Seriously. I'm working on it. - sycor Aug 3, 13:08 3
      - Therapy and medication. -- nm - TWuG Aug 3, 13:11 1
        
        When I go, have the medical examiner look at my brain for CTE brain damage bubbles (cranial Trump encephalitis) -- nm - zeitgeist Aug 3, 13:15
      - For me, it got easier once I accepted that the friends and family I lost to MAGA are lost and are not coming back. -- nm - Jovian Aug 3, 13:10
i think his max sentence in the MAL docs case is 20 years? this judge could bang him for 35 if he's convicted. that's a death sentence - hollywood big shot Aug 3, 12:34
I don’t think any of it really matters when paired with the question of if he’s going to be elected president again. If that happens, we’re done. -- nm - Qale Aug 3, 12:31 1
- Yup -- nm - Jovian Aug 3, 12:41
I disagree with half of the country. They are smaller than that, just louder. -- nm - Pippy Quintas Aug 3, 12:20 18
- Agreed. It's about 35%. And I think those infuriated by Trump will be equally motivated. -- nm - pmb Aug 3, 12:56
- They have money, lots of money, they have the bulk of media, police even in liberal areas, they are organized, they have guns -- nm - zeitgeist Aug 3, 12:44 1
  - Yes. to all of that. And unless they are going to rig the machines, they still can't stop the Democratic Voting process. - Pippy Quintas Aug 3, 12:48
- It’s generally put at 37% in most polling. So yeah, definitely not half the country. -- nm - Qale Aug 3, 12:30 1
  - And that's 37% of voters. So significantly less than 50% -- nm - TWuG Aug 3, 13:12
- This is the problem with reducing things to a binary. It makes each side seem equal in significance. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 3, 12:22
- I won't quibble over the numbers. It could be 40%, maybe slightly lower. Suffice to say "a sizable portion" -- nm - Fuzzy Aug 3, 12:22 10
  - I hear you. What is the impact on election. If our country elects a facist criminal then what are we even doing? - Pippy Quintas Aug 3, 12:33 9
    - Unfortunately because people are inherently lazy and stupid. Too lazy to vote and too stupid to realize what happens if they don't. - sycor Aug 3, 12:46 8
      - Biden getting old is the bigger problem than Trump in jail. Democrats are holding on to the incumbent always has more sway. - Pippy Quintas Aug 3, 12:51 7
        
        Biden getting old is not a problem for me personally. It’s the reason why we have a Vice President. -- nm - Qale Aug 3, 13:17 1
        
        honestly not me either. But it clearly another attack issue by the GOP that has credence. -- nm - Pippy Quintas Aug 3, 13:53
        
        Newsom is the heir apparent. Whitmer could make waves too. -- nm* - Fuzzy Aug 3, 13:06 1
        
        Thank you for this. I was racking my brain. who? who could it be. I'd campaign hard for Whitmer. -- nm - Pippy Quintas Aug 3, 13:18
        
        No one knew Obama was "in the wings" until he started winning primaries. -- nm - TWuG Aug 3, 12:53 2
        
        I do think the party could do more to highlight up and coming politicians. -- nm - mara Aug 3, 13:01 1
        
        Agreed -- nm - Pippy Quintas Aug 3, 13:04
- Yup. -- nm - The Allfather Aug 3, 12:21

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